Star Wars Ep III Thread

[Thordic]

I liked it. I think that a lot of people are looking at the first series wrong. It isn't supposed to stand alone. It is supposed to set the stage for 4-5-6. You have to take all 6 movies in total. The second trilogy can stand on its own, but the first trilogy doesn't work without the second. Without the second trilogy, this first one would have been a letdown, which is why Lucas did the second one first.

What if the second trilogy hadn't been made yet, and at the end of this movie all the Jedi were dead, the good guys lost, and evil had just taken over the galaxy? Everyone would be *****ing and moaning. It wouldn't work. Everyone would hate Lucas.

But now the whole thing as a set makes so much more sense. When you re-watch 4-5-6 (and you will), the characters will come across differently. Characters like Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Vader will have more to them. It brings a whole new experience to the second trilogy.

I think THAT is the function of this trilogy. You don't look on them as a stand-alone, they are simply a very complex introduction to 4-5-6. And, in my opinion, Lucas pulled it off in a huge way. Sure, he can't write dialogue worth a damn, but he knows what kind of stories will appeal to the masses.

[bit-wizard]

and he did bring balance to the force after all ...

That was another part of the prequels that I thought was really pretty well done. The Jedi were constantly interpreting the prophecy that Anakin would bring balance to the force as a "good thing" for them. Well, if you look at the galactic situation before ROTS, the force was unbalanced in the Jedi's favor. There were many Jedi and 2 sith. Well, after Vader finished his transformation, there were only a few Jedi and 2 sith. So he did exactly what he was prophecied to do. And he was the "chosen one" -- chosen by Palpatine.

bit-wizard

[Buff]

well......maybe the chosen one was luke........
Anakin and palpatine would take over the ailing Republic,
the Rebels would fight back later,
and then The Rebels win and bring about a "New Repubic"
w/o all the beaurcrats in the Old Republic. and the Sith are dead also.

[Eagle]

and when you think about it, he does fulfill the profecy of destroying the sith by killing the emperor and then dying himself in ROTJ.

[bleachit]

I liked it. I think that a lot of people are looking at the first series wrong. It isn't supposed to stand alone. It is supposed to set the stage for 4-5-6. You have to take all 6 movies in total. The second trilogy can stand on its own, but the first trilogy doesn't work without the second. Without the second trilogy, this first one would have been a letdown, which is why Lucas did the second one first.

FINALLY someone who agrees with me.

[WingMan13]

and when you think about it, he does fulfill the profecy of destroying the sith by killing the emperor and then dying himself in ROTJ.

Yes, yes to Eagle you listen! That's when the prophecy is fulfilled!

[bam wannabe]

oh, and for those of you wondering, George Lucas was seen right as Anakin is walking onto the balcony to talk to (at the time) Chacellar Palpatine, when he talks to him about Darth Plagious (sp?)... GL is outside talking to someone. some say its his daughter... i dunno, i didnt pay that much attention to that one little fact. i'll check this weekend when i see it again.

[bit-wizard]

Good point Eagle

That's an excellent point, Eagle. I hadn't thought it through to its logical conclusion. I guess I also assumed that the title, Return of the Jedi, referred to Luke. But in light of what you wrote, it occurs to me that it very likely could be talking about the return of Anakin, or his "goodness" or whatever. Veryyyy interestinggggg.

[gimp]

I just thought of another thing that bothered me. It has to do with the beginning, when Obi-Wan and Anakin are fighting together. Maybe it was done on purpose to make Anakin and Obi-Wan look like it was all easy for them or something. I don't know. There was no music!! I'll have to see it again to confirm this. Maybe it was just a few times where there wasn't any music, and I happened to notice, but it bothered me. The star wars music is excellent, it adds so much to the movie.

[WingMan13]

I just thought of another thing that bothered me. It has to do with the beginning, when Obi-Wan and Anakin are fighting together. Maybe it was done on purpose to make Anakin and Obi-Wan look like it was all easy for them or something. I don't know. There was no music!! I'll have to see it again to confirm this. Maybe it was just a few times where there wasn't any music, and I happened to notice, but it bothered me. The star wars music is excellent, it adds so much to the movie.

There's a whole score dedicated to that fight called "Battle of The Heroes". Maybe your theatre sound was lacking? I know the theatre I went to had such dull sound. I was pissed.

[RogueFactoryKid]

Rawr. Who wants a copy.

[WingMan13]

Copy? Pm me if you have it

[Rooster]

"Anyone else find it funny when vader yelled 'NOOOOO" at the end there? It didn't sound right."

I found it pathetic. Episode 4 Vader blew up a planet and acted like it meant as much to him as passing gas.

"Your are Diet Evil, just one calorie, not evil enough."

[1stdeadeye]

I loved it!!!

Longer movie then I thought though. Liked the fight scenes except for when Obi-Won went cuisenart on Annakin. The fight was well done, but the end was anti-climatic.

I did like the reconstruction scene.

Two thumbs up!!!

[Eagle]

"Your are Diet Evil, just one calorie, not evil enough."

lol. It did sound wierd in James Earl Jones voice, but you have to remember 20 years of hatred builds up between the 2 events.