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  • Target Practice
    irc.zirc.org:6667 = chat!
    • Nov 2003
    • 3180

    #46
    Originally posted by Chris42050
    Guilty until proven innocent right. Lets think of every possible reason why he could be a molestor and assume he is one. Yeah thats how our legal system works. No! wrong innocent until proven guilty. Guess what after 10 years of Sneddon and his personal vendetta towards Michael Jackson all he could come up with was this half assed attempt at proving him guilty. If he truly were guilty of such crimes couldn't they have a credible kid come forward and say they were raped/molested. NO they couldnt. Why. Because maybe, just maybe he didn't do it. Did you ever think of that.
    His actions correlate with your run-of-the-mill pedophile. If it looks like a duck, and it sounds like a duck....

    If he truly were guilty of such crimes couldn't they have a credible kid come forward and say they were raped/molested.
    You just don't get it, do you? Pedophiles do not prey on stable, credible children. They prey on the troubled ones, whether it is the creepy guy that lives in his van by the elementery school or Michael Jackson.


    "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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    • SlartyBartFast
      The Flying Scotsman
      • Jun 2002
      • 2940

      #47
      Originally posted by Target Practice
      His actions correlate with your run-of-the-mill pedophile. If it looks like a duck, and it sounds like a duck....
      Wow.

      Next time you LOOK like a criminal or act suspiscious, I hope the cops just gun you down on the spot.

      Most serial killers are quiet regular guys. Guess we should lock up all the loners...

      Logic graded: Grade A Moronic.

      Even if Jackson is guilty of other crimes. He has been found NOT GUILTY of the specific charges against him.

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      • Jakedubbleya
        Don Quixote
        • Mar 2005
        • 631

        #48
        OK, so am i missing something here or didnt jackson admit to being a child molester/having urges to molest children on his VH-1 special? I mean maby it wasnt admissable in court but there is no denying that the guy is a toddler fondler (ziiing).

        thats pretty much what i gathered from it... yeah he had excuses like his bros used to molest him or whatever..... freaks....

        fyi, after the trial jurors made appearances on various talkshows saying that most of them felt he was guilty but that they "just couldnt do it.

        as for all you defending his innocence.... why? prison would probably do his sheltered cushiony freaky molested pressured life some good.

        or maby hed just be somebody's *****, i dunno.

        freak

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        • Bolter
          Hardcore casual
          • May 2003
          • 1223

          #49
          Are you just guessing? Because your statements suggests you have not seen the VH-1 special or actually seen the jurors on talk shows. I would like to see proof of what you just said.

          A good friend of mine met a girl in a bar. They chatted, she asked him back to theirs, they went in, made some horizontal fandango, and he left in the morning.

          That evening, he was arrested for rape. He was put in cells and interviewed at length over this matter, with it eventually going to court. Right before the trial, the girl drops the charges claiming that she made it up and didnt expect it to go this far.

          And my friend is still remembered for being a rapist even though he did not do it. His life has been turned upside down, he has been beaten up for nothing. He was named in a newspaper.

          All the evidence was there, they could prove he was in the flat, they could prove that intercourse took place, they could prove that alcohol was involved. This doesnt mean he actually raped her, and likewise with Jackson. Yes he had children in his house. Yes he drank alcohol. Yes he is a strange man. Does this mean he is a peodophile? Should we just lynch him anyways?
          Bolter
          Storm Uk

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          • Chris42050
            Splatmaster Tech
            • Feb 2004
            • 567

            #50
            Originally posted by Target Practice
            His actions correlate with your run-of-the-mill pedophile. If it looks like a duck, and it sounds like a duck....



            You just don't get it, do you? Pedophiles do not prey on stable, credible children. They prey on the troubled ones, whether it is the creepy guy that lives in his van by the elementery school or Michael Jackson.
            Then where are all these screwed up kids that have been molested by him. I am sure Sneddon in the 10 years he has been goin after Jacko, could have found at least 1 family with a little more crediability. You just dont get it do you. If a prosecuter was after you for 10 years and couldnt convinct you of 1 crime wouldnt that tell you that you just MIGHT be innocent. You refuse to even consider the possiblity and that is sad.

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            • Target Practice
              irc.zirc.org:6667 = chat!
              • Nov 2003
              • 3180

              #51
              Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
              Next time you LOOK like a criminal or act suspiscious, I hope the cops just gun you down on the spot.

              Most serial killers are quiet regular guys. Guess we should lock up all the loners...
              If you noticed, that wasn't my be-all-end-all argument. He does the things that he does, and this give a reason to investigate him further. I'm not saying that he's guilty solely by his behavior, but rather his behavior sends up a red flag, and that maybe an investigation is the right thing to do.

              Your example and mine are fundamentally different however. I'm talking about someone who is doing something out of the ordinary, and you are talking about someone that is not doing something out of the ordinary.

              If I'm sitting in my car in front of somebody's house all day, or standing by the ATM machine at night, waiting for someone, You bet your balls I'd want a cop to ask me what I'm doing. Not arrest me, but to start his own little mini-investigation. Then, if it seems like I really shouldn't be there, or I'm not being truthful with him, then he can take the situation to a higher level.

              I think that if Jackson was just a "regular guy" instead of the high-profile celebrity he is, the same behavior/crimes he was aquitted of would have gotten him throw in prison.


              "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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              • Target Practice
                irc.zirc.org:6667 = chat!
                • Nov 2003
                • 3180

                #52
                Originally posted by Chris42050
                Then where are all these screwed up kids that have been molested by him. I am sure Sneddon in the 10 years he has been goin after Jacko, could have found at least 1 family with a little more crediability. You just dont get it do you. If a prosecuter was after you for 10 years and couldnt convinct you of 1 crime wouldnt that tell you that you just MIGHT be innocent. You refuse to even consider the possiblity and that is sad.
                Remeber how Kobe's accuser was treated after the allegations were made? How many death threats she/her family got?

                Kobe is small potatos when it comes to Jackson. Do you think that a young child would come forward knowing they are taking on one of the most beloved pop icons in the history of civillization? Jesus, it'd be a firestorm.

                You're saying that there is this vast conspiracy within and without the prosecution to put him in prison?


                "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --Henry Louis Mencken.

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                • SlartyBartFast
                  The Flying Scotsman
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 2940

                  #53
                  Sexual abuse charges are SCARY things.

                  For all those serving as judge-jury-and executionerread the other side:



                  They DID investigate Jackson. For 10 bloody years.

                  In 10 years and how many searches of his home and neverland and this case was the best they could do.

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                  • Jakedubbleya
                    Don Quixote
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 631

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Bolter
                    Are you just guessing? Because your statements suggests you have not seen the VH-1 special or actually seen the jurors on talk shows. I would like to see proof of what you just said.
                    No luck w/ google, i gave it 10 mins of search time thats im gunna give it. I saw the special, basically the incriminating part included how his brothers and father molested him as a child and how his dad was always pushing him yadayadayada making him insane yadayadayada, one of my friends has it recorded ill take some better notes and give a few juicy quotes.

                    as for the jurors comments, no i did not see them. i heard on the news this morning in my car a few specific quotes is all. somebody on larry king called him innocent and the rest "thought he was guilty".

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                    • TheDuelist
                      Office use only.
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 671

                      #55
                      Several of the jurors said they believe Jackson has molested children in the past but they could not convict him on the charges that were brought against him in the trial. Sneddon failed to prove the case and the defense did a great job of putting the accuser on trial. The system worked as it was supposed to. If the prosecution had put together a better case with solid witnesses things probably would have turned out different. Since that wasn't the case we have to live with the result.

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                      • Chris42050
                        Splatmaster Tech
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 567

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Target Practice
                        Remeber how Kobe's accuser was treated after the allegations were made? How many death threats she/her family got?

                        Kobe is small potatos when it comes to Jackson. Do you think that a young child would come forward knowing they are taking on one of the most beloved pop icons in the history of civillization? Jesus, it'd be a firestorm.

                        You're saying that there is this vast conspiracy within and without the prosecution to put him in prison?
                        What the Hell are you talking about. VAST CONSPIRACY? When the Hell did I say that. Sneddon has made it his personal vendetta to go after Jackson. I never said anything about a conspiracy. Everyone knows Sneddon has been after Jackson. And I think it is sad that you won't even consider the possibility he is innocent. I hope you are accused of something you did not do. Very soon, in fact. Then we can all just hang you because you were accused. Doesn't matter if you did it or not. The accusation is good enough. Right?

                        In 10 years of children goin to his house and being supposedly molested you don't think 1 "credible" child could be found and convinced by Sneddon to testify. Not 1 child who grew up or is still a child now has come forward and said he was inappropratly touched without tyring to get money out of the situation. But, what do I know. Accusation should be enough to convince and convict. Right?

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