My rant about people ranting over Ep 3

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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    My rant about people ranting over Ep 3

    I think people need to step back and take a look at the bigger picture here before they rant about what a "bad" picture it was or how it should have been "this way", whatever.....lets consider a few things for a minute.

    Star Wars was released in the late 70's. I was under 10 years old when it came out. It was absolutely amazing to me then. I didn't notice the bad finish on Darth Vaders helmet. I wasn't concerned over the blue screen inconsistancies /"wires" surrounding the Millenium Falcon (or any other spacecraft for that matter), and I didn't care that over half the set was actually made up of PVC fittings and the like. I was enthralled. I was in for the whole enchilada.

    I was able to look past the Ewoks, the pasts equvalent to Jar Jar. I didn't complain about all the cutesy crap being pawned off on R2D2...I was able to look past what in retrospect was a mediocre script with sub-standard acting that was below a good portion of the cast. I can forgive Hammil cause he just suxs anyway, poor guy.

    I was absolutely in love with Leia, like I was supposed to be. I was afraid of Vader and the Emperor. I was rooting for the Rebels every step of the way. I was a young kid/teen, and I am who the movie was marketed towards.

    Now move into the "new" movies, the prequels as it were. The effects, budget, editing, everything about the movies are 110% better than the original Star Wars. Was the plot or script any better? No, but consider the source and who it was MARKETED for. These movies were made with kids and selling toys in mind. Many of us who have grown up with SW would like to think that Lucas wrote all this for us. We want to pick it apart because it doesn't live up to the image we have in our mind of the "great" first series.

    That was over 20 years ago. They were state of the art then. These new movies are an impressive technilogical accomplishment, but how many other movies are there now that have the budget, and the computer generation to impress us with special effects?

    In a time when amazing special effects are the standard......I am not so certain that the new episodes weren't as good, really better than the others. I just think the viewing audiance is jaded and forgot that we aren't all 10 anymore.
  • Destructo6
    Registered User
    • Apr 2004
    • 549

    #2
    Star Wars was released in the late 70's. I was under 10 years old when it came out. It was absolutely amazing to me then. I didn't notice the bad finish on Darth Vaders helmet. I wasn't concerned over the blue screen inconsistancies /"wires" surrounding the Millenium Falcon (or any other spacecraft for that matter), and I didn't care that over half the set was actually made up of PVC fittings and the like. I was enthralled. I was in for the whole enchilada.
    I think that point is central to most rants: a good story can be furthered by decent special effects, but a bad story cannot be saved by great special effects.
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    • Alpha
      Support our troops. <3
      • Nov 2004
      • 841

      #3
      People rant in groups because it makes trhem feel secure. People rant over the net becuase its easy to hidebehidn their computer screen. People say bad things becuase its easier to say bad stuff then nice stuff.

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      • Blennidae
        an epileptic hummingbird
        • Nov 2001
        • 1920

        #4
        You missed out on all this fun...

        Our off topic forum. (You mean there are things other than paintball??) Please keep your posts civil, and refrain from topics that are likely to start problems. (NOTE: Any thread may be closed for any reason.)

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        • steimway
          Registered User
          • Sep 2002
          • 187

          #5
          Woah, man. Ep. 3 rants are so last month. Now it's all about the remake of The Warriors. (Or at least it should be. Can't improve on perfection.)

          Can you dig it?

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          • ProX9
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 336

            #6
            this article basically encompasses what steelrat said except it has *swearing* and neat illustrations.
            I agree with what's said in the article as well.
            You better watch yo' self B!

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            • Steelrat
              I meant to...uh, nevermind
              • May 2003
              • 5375

              #7
              Good article.

              Let me sum up my position.

              It sucked.

              Watching Batman Begins only confirmed that it sucked.

              Heck, even watching Lemony Snickett with my kids tonight confirmed that, indeed, Ep 3 did suck.

              If it wasn't marketed for me, great. That only serves to confirm that my believe in its suckage is valid and justified. I'm glad the 9 year olds, clutching their Burger King Count Dooku toys with grossly enlarged heads, were able to thoroughly enjoy George "Howard Hughes" Lucas's Magnum Crapus.


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              • tyrion2323
                Euroball=goodness
                • Dec 2002
                • 1654

                #8
                Originally posted by Destructo6
                I think that point is central to most rants: a good story can be furthered by decent special effects, but a bad story cannot be saved by great special effects.
                QFT.
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                • ProX9
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 336

                  #9
                  I'm disappointed that they didnt show the kids get killed, when that part came up I was just about to burst into laughter, and then the scene changes. I was pissed. He should have jabbed the lightsaber through the first kids face while laughing evilly. He then should have proceeded to dismember a few kids with the force and slice a few heads off. Then the clones come in and finish the job while anakin gets the stragglers. Hopefully this will be on the extended special edition dvd that will come out after everyone buys the regular one.
                  You better watch yo' self B!

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                  • Vex
                    Superiorly Inferior
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 1871

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ProX9
                    I'm disappointed that they didnt show the kids get killed, when that part came up I was just about to burst into laughter, and then the scene changes. I was pissed. He should have jabbed the lightsaber through the first kids face while laughing evilly. He then should have proceeded to dismember a few kids with the force and slice a few heads off. Then the clones come in and finish the job while anakin gets the stragglers. Hopefully this will be on the extended special edition dvd that will come out after everyone buys the regular one.
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                    • Steelrat
                      I meant to...uh, nevermind
                      • May 2003
                      • 5375

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ProX9
                      I'm disappointed that they didnt show the kids get killed, when that part came up I was just about to burst into laughter, and then the scene changes. I was pissed. He should have jabbed the lightsaber through the first kids face while laughing evilly. He then should have proceeded to dismember a few kids with the force and slice a few heads off. Then the clones come in and finish the job while anakin gets the stragglers. Hopefully this will be on the extended special edition dvd that will come out after everyone buys the regular one.
                      Actually, he should have chopped the kid in half vertically, like in Blade 2. Maybe then start up a pulsing techno theme while Anakin hacks and mangles all the little kids.


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                      • SCpoloRicker
                        HA HA I'm custom!!1
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4375

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steelrat
                        Actually, he should have chopped the kid in half vertically, like in Blade 2. Maybe then start up a pulsing techno theme while Anakin hacks and mangles all the little kids.
                        Wait for it...


                        Wait...



                        AT A RAVE! Thats whats cool these days!! You see, market research tells us that theres a new phenomenon: electronic music!

                        SO, what we do is, have Blade track the vampires to a RAVE PARTY! FOR VAMPIRES!

                        It'll go over huge! Electronic music, man. Have everyone in sunglasses, and like, *boo* *Doo-doo da doo da do* *boo* and he like, slices everyone up and stuff.

                        I'm telling you, raves man. RAVES!

                        /If you care enough to complain, you're a fan
                        //*looks at Steelrat*
                        God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                        • Steelrat
                          I meant to...uh, nevermind
                          • May 2003
                          • 5375

                          #13
                          Of course I'm a fan! Thats why I'm so pissed off!!!!111ONEONE

                          In fact, I'm only slightly less upset than I would be if the prequels had consisted of nothing more than footage of Lucas urinating on copies of EP 4-6. The original 4-6.


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                          • SCpoloRicker
                            HA HA I'm custom!!1
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4375

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Steelrat
                            Of course I'm a fan! Thats why I'm so pissed off!!!!111ONEONE

                            In fact, I'm only slightly less upset than I would be if the prequels had consisted of nothing more than footage of Lucas urinating on copies of EP 4-6. The original 4-6.
                            '77, '81, '96, or 2005? Or do you mean Laser? Or was it Special Edition VHS? Or box set DVDs?

                            /me bitter?
                            //still going again
                            ///no love for my Blade joke ?
                            God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                            • ProX9
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 336

                              #15
                              Steelrat I had definitely thought of the vertical slice but I was too lazy to type it all out. I had also thought, what happens if you leave the light saber in some one for awhile, would they light on fire? Why not find out if youre hacking them up anyhow?
                              You better watch yo' self B!

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