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  • PyRo
    President Bioloaf inc.
    • Dec 2000
    • 10186

    #16
    If we are growing the fuel arn't we just depleting the soil and ultimatly just comming up with new ways to screw ourselves over?

    What we need to do is use nuclear power and come up with an efficant way of just blasting the waste into space.

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    • bofh
      Waldorf, the Heckler
      • Jul 2001
      • 1248

      #17
      Originally posted by PyRo
      If we are growing the fuel arn't we just depleting the soil and ultimatly just comming up with new ways to screw ourselves over?
      Plants gather only minor amounts of mineals from the soil, which is solved by doing proper crop rotation. The rest is from the air and water.

      We've been an agricultural society for over 2000 years. We're pretty good at it now.
      Shaun Nelson --- old, fat, slow.... did I mention lazy? I ate all the pies
      I disable .signatures Apparently you do not.

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      • Jaan
        It's Pronounced *John*

        • Apr 2005
        • 1310

        #18
        Originally posted by PyRo
        I fail to see the problem with sticking solar panels on roofs.
        They're just not that efficient. They only work well in direct sun light. They're expensive to manufacture too. Among other things I make solar charging systems for a living ... if they were a good alternative at the moment my roof would be covered in them (c:

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        • wad04
          Registered User
          • Jan 2003
          • 1207

          #19
          we'll never run out of oil, I bet you a million dollars.

          think about it for a minute before you try and shut me down.
          who ever said "its not whether you win or lose..." probably lost.

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          • Head knight of Ni
            Silly K-niggits
            • Mar 2004
            • 1032

            #20
            Originally posted by wad04
            we'll never run out of oil, I bet you a million dollars.

            think about it for a minute before you try and shut me down.
            Well, quite obviously we'll kill ourselves off for the last reserves, so no we won't run out. Some people are converting to bio-desiel, you can get free fuel from Mcdonald's fryer vatts. And your exhaust smells like french fries.
            March 15
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            • PyRo
              President Bioloaf inc.
              • Dec 2000
              • 10186

              #21
              Originally posted by Jaan
              They're just not that efficient. They only work well in direct sun light. They're expensive to manufacture too. Among other things I make solar charging systems for a living ... if they were a good alternative at the moment my roof would be covered in them (c:
              A couple questions out of curiosity, not to argue with you.

              If an average house got say six hours of sunlight on the roof how much power would that produce? Say the roof is about 40*60 and half the roof is getting sunlight at a time.

              How much would it cost to install a system with say a 40ft * 60ft panel?

              What's the average life of such a panel?

              I ask because a roof probably costs around $6000 and must be replaced every 20 years or so. So is it possible that over time a panel would save you money based on not having to re-shingle your roof and the savings on your power bill?

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              • PyRo
                President Bioloaf inc.
                • Dec 2000
                • 10186

                #22
                Originally posted by wad04
                we'll never run out of oil, I bet you a million dollars.

                think about it for a minute before you try and shut me down.
                It's impossible to extract all the oil from the ground. It's that simple.

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                • TheDuelist
                  Office use only.
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 671

                  #23
                  I've been researching putting up a windmill on my property to cut down on energy costs in the long term. As of right now there isn't anything for my area that produces more that 1 Kw worth of energy at peak wind times so it would only provide minimal support but I'm hopeful something better will come about soon. Combine that with solar panels and we could see significant energy savings if the government would offer better incentives to add them to your home.

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                  • Will Wood
                    Evil Monkey
                    • May 2002
                    • 3475

                    #24
                    Wind power isn't too bad of an option if you live in a windy area. Except for the fact that they are incredibly noisy and annoying.. if you don't mind the noise it's a great idea.

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                    • PyRo
                      President Bioloaf inc.
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 10186

                      #25
                      My cold fusion machine pw0ns you all.

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                      • bofh
                        Waldorf, the Heckler
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 1248

                        #26
                        Originally posted by PyRo
                        It's impossible to extract all the oil from the ground. It's that simple.
                        We can also grow oil from plants, and use that to make bio-diesel, (or run it directly in a diesel.)
                        Shaun Nelson --- old, fat, slow.... did I mention lazy? I ate all the pies
                        I disable .signatures Apparently you do not.

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                        • Kai

                          #27
                          My wiener is solar-powered.

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                          • Jonneh
                            A nice fellow.
                            • May 2001
                            • 990

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Kai
                            My wiener is solar-powered.
                            That doesn't make any kind of sense.
                            If you said it was man-powered, that would be true.

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                            • Kai

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jonneh
                              That doesn't make any kind of sense.
                              If you said it was man-powered, that would be true.
                              Are you... coming on to me?

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                              • Jonneh
                                A nice fellow.
                                • May 2001
                                • 990

                                #30
                                man power!

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