When does 'No' mean 'No'?

[Automaggot68]

Right, respect that this is the internet and not every aspect can be accounted for. Im only making comments, and asking you to judge whether or not they fit the situation.

I also agreed and she shoudl tell him to stay away.


If you left it out and I took it in another direction it isnt my fault. I AM trying to cover all the aspects but like I said above not all can be accounted for.

Yeah. Sorry about that--you can imagine my frustration.

[Dubstar112]

Has she said any thing other than NO to him. Like, Never, and dont try again? This is relative and HE should know that 3rd time isnt a charm.

Also, No could mean no in different instances. NO as in maybe if we decide to like eachother, and NO as in never. To him this may not be as clear and concise as you think. If hes really into her, but shes definatley not she should make that known. Persistance should only go so far and I agree he should get the hint. But hints and NO may not always be enough. She may need to explain that she doesnt want any thing to do with him. Im not saying that she should have to, but if just NO doesnt work on this situation, go one step further. NO NEVER. see where Im going?

[Target Practice]

Funny, I feel the need to eviscerate this worthless bastard here in SLO. Perhaps we can do it simultaneously, with the same MO. That'll keep those CSI jerks guessing.

[3pac]

random thought

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just a random thought.

[Indignant]

gone.

[Recon by Fire]

No, means NO.

You shoudl let this girl handle her own affairs and stay clear of it. Don't try to be or have her play you as the knight in shining armor. Try to associate with mature women instead

[Indignant]

Ok, maybe that wasn't in the best tastes.

[Indignant]

No, means NO.

You shoudl let this girl handle her own affairs and stay clear of it. Don't try to be or have her play you as the knight in shining armor. Try to associate with mature women instead

Well, up until now that's what she has been doing, handling her own affairs. And look where it's got her. Someone needs to help out,

[tropical_fishy]

Has she said any thing other than NO to him. Like, Never, and dont try again? This is relative and HE should know that 3rd time isnt a charm.

Also, No could mean no in different instances. NO as in maybe if we decide to like eachother, and NO as in never. To him this may not be as clear and concise as you think. If hes really into her, but shes definatley not she should make that known. Persistance should only go so far and I agree he should get the hint. But hints and NO may not always be enough. She may need to explain that she doesnt want any thing to do with him. Im not saying that she should have to, but if just NO doesnt work on this situation, go one step further. NO NEVER. see where Im going?

If he was that into her, he wouldn't have slapped her butt and left. If he was into her, wouldn't he want to stay and hang out? And from what I can tell she SAID no... verbally and physically.


Just sayin'.

[Dubstar112]

Agreed, but there is whackos out there who just dont get it.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Of course it means no, but I have little sympathy for girls who still hang around those kind of guys and have continued problems. If she thinks she can simply "diffuse it" or whatever... she is mistaken and is asking for trouble. Guys like that don't learn, they will try again given the opportunity... regardless of her naive belief that she has control of the situation while being around him. She needs to cut contact with him.

If she gets hurt, and does not do this: Don't feel sorry for her. If something does happen... she needs to take care of it immediately, as far as reporting it. "Why did it take you a week to contact us?" will be the first question... nothing will be resolved.

. If she gets hurt dont feel sorry for her? what the hell is wrong with you.

You honestly dont think that she is trying to cut contact with him after this incident? You dont think that she's been tryinig to avoid him at all costs after this? It's obvious that the situation can no longer be diffused, but before this i dont believe the guy was ever this agressive.

You have little sympathy for girls who still hand around these kind of guys? Well you're sure as hell not showing any sympathy for girls that have had run-ins with those kind of guys and are trying to get away.

[Miscue]

Of course it means no, but I have little sympathy for girls who still hang around those kind of guys and have continued problems. If she thinks she can simply "diffuse it" or whatever... she is mistaken and is asking for trouble. Guys like that don't learn, they will try again given the opportunity... regardless of her naive belief that she has control of the situation while being around him. She needs to cut contact with him.

If she gets hurt and does not do this: Don't feel sorry for her. If something does happen... she needs to take care of it immediately, as far as reporting it or whatever. Otherwise, "Why did it take you a week to contact us?" will be the first question... nothing will be resolved.

If something really bad happens, she needs to take care of it immediately... call the police/sexual assault... which will follow with an invasive/uncomfortable inspection by the doctor - and if you're quick and they can get the guy... he'll get swabbed for fluids and such. Crying about it and waiting will make conviction difficult to impossible.

This is reality. Girls get raped all the freakin' time. Rich girls, educated girls... hell no are they immune... there are victims all the time... the kind that think they have control over the situation... yet they keep hanging around these fools.

[slade]

Confront him about it.

thats what i thought at first. but remember, a lot of people in situations like this just want to get away from the person, and never see them again. the last thing they want is to be forced to see them again.

oh, and you can tell from the first post that the girl said no clearly both verbally and through body language. you did take the subject of girls saying "no" into a direction contrary to the situation given in the origional post.

Has she said any thing other than NO to him. Like, Never, and dont try again? This is relative and HE should know that 3rd time isnt a charm.

that should already be evident to him, although telling him that couldnt hurt... although as i said, she probably wants to stay away from him.

You shoudl let this girl handle her own affairs and stay clear of it. Don't try to be or have her play you as the knight in shining armor. Try to associate with mature women instead

that post was not needed at all. you just essentially said the girl is overreacting and immature, while insulting derek at the same time, and possibly implying that she is using him.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Of course it means no, but I have little sympathy for girls who still hang around those kind of guys and have continued problems. If she thinks she can simply "diffuse it" or whatever... she is mistaken and is asking for trouble. Guys like that don't learn, they will try again given the opportunity... regardless of her naive belief that she has control of the situation while being around him. She needs to cut contact with him.

If she gets hurt and does not do this: Don't feel sorry for her. If something does happen... she needs to take care of it immediately, as far as reporting it or whatever. Otherwise, "Why did it take you a week to contact us?" will be the first question... nothing will be resolved.

If something really bad happens, she needs to take care of it immediately... call the police/sexual assault... which will follow with an invasive/uncomfortable inspection by the doctor - and if you're quick and they can get the guy... he'll get swabbed for fluids and such. Crying about it and waiting will make conviction difficult to impossible.

This is reality. Girls get raped all the freakin' time. Rich girls, educated girls... hell no are they immune... there are victims all the time... the kind that think they have control over the situation... yet they keep hanging around these fools.

The girls that think they have control of the situation are not the only girls that get raped. So in your reality you show no sympathy for a girl that goes through that? You show no sympathy for a miscalculation? for a girl thinking that she knows a guy as a friend, only to find out that the only thing he wants is her body?
How could you tell someone not to feel sorry for a friend? Where the **** are your morals, or more importantly your heart.

I think that if a close friend of yours was raped, someone who you really cared about, you'd feel something.
If not you're no better then the guys that do this ****.

[Miscue]

. If she gets hurt dont feel sorry for her? what the hell is wrong with you.

You honestly dont think that she is trying to cut contact with him after this incident? You dont think that she's been tryinig to avoid him at all costs after this? It's obvious that the situation can no longer be diffused, but before this i dont believe the guy was ever this agressive.

You have little sympathy for girls who still hand around these kind of guys? Well you're sure as hell not showing any sympathy for girls that have had run-ins with those kind of guys and are trying to get away.

You're misunderstanding my point of view... going off on a tangent.... and have no idea of what my personal experience has been with this subject. I won't explain, I don't want to talk about it.

Certain types of sex offenders are among the lowest scum in my mind and should be hung by their genitals.

Note that I said "little sympathy," not "no sympathy." Interpret that how you wish. My sympathy for children... someone who had a random attacker... things of this sort - is going to be different from a girl who keeps hanging around a guy that's been acting stupid.

Note the part where he said: "she's still hanging out with him a 3rd time." Is she making large efforts in trying to avoid him?