american flag

[nippinout]

Recon, go ahead and make more words capitalized. It makes me agree with you more. And I dont loathe this country. If I did, I seriously doubt I would be an nco in its army. I loathe idiots who do stupid things in the name of the nation and then say Im being disrespectful to the nation for arguing with those stupid actions. I also loathe idiots who dont do those stupid things, and yet still argue that I cant denounce those stupid things because it disrespects the country. Our country is built upon the knowledge that the government is going to screw the pooch and our people have the right to say and do something about it.

Army, if you seriously think that we arent torturing people, youre blind. If I ever find any unclassified proof of it, Ill be sure to link it. For now just go ahead and write a letter to Senator McCain and tell him that he shouldnt be pushing for anti torture legislation because it is a waste of his time to outlaw something we dont do anyway, and see what he says. And when youre done writing that letter, go ask VP Cheney why he is lobbying for exceptions to the no cruel and inhuman treatment rule so the CIA can get information from terrorists. And as for Katrina, you can write another letter on that one too. This one goes to Mr Bush himself. Go ahead and ask him why he said the federal government did not do its job right. Because according to you they apparently did. Theres a wealth of information on the internet about the failings of the government at all levels, federal, state, and city. If its not too disrespectful to your precious country, I would advise you educate yourself on it.

Well this certainly went off topic.

To continue down this road, I'm not a supporter of torture, in most instances. For instance, if another large terrorist attack was about to occur, I would have no reservations over torturing a captive terrorist for intelligence to prevent it. If we could have prevented the attacks of September 11 through the use of torture, I would have supported it. The lives of 3,000 innocent Americans is more important than the humane treatment of a terrorist with a death wish to kill those 3,000 Americans.

[Recon by Fire]

Kosmo, this thread is about improper flag display. As an NCO in the Army, flag burning and or improper display does not bother you? It should, if it doesn't I am very sory to hear that.

[master_alexander]

there was a video clip of this guy who burned an american flag (somewhere in iraq) and they waved it around and a few people got badly burned. (who didnt like the U.S) the title was "why to not burn the american flag". it was funny.

[Eagle]

there was a video clip of this guy who burned an american flag (somewhere in iraq) and they waved it around and a few people got badly burned. (who didnt like the U.S) the title was "why to not burn the american flag". it was funny.

Yeah, I think I know the one you're talking about. It was a day or two after September 11th, but it was Pakastan, not Iraq. Anyways, I posted a newspaper pic of it on a bulletin board on ship where it stayed for over a year.

[M98Punk]

Recon I am rather curious just how high up that horse is that you ride on... And I do not loathe this country, I for one love it. I loathe people like yourself who believe in one very ignorant, Go america!, Quarter pounder hold the pickle the rest of the world, belief. People who think they have a right to dictate how I express my freedom, I have no need for some uncultured grunt to tell me how I should support America, if only because history shows people with ideals of freedom as pale as their skin manage to lose every war they fight. Now I'm sure your going to tell me about a great list of American wars that us bleeding heart librrrrals didn't want to get into that we won, and I will counter with facts that prove that we didn't and you'll ignore them, we just took claim for others victory cause thats really the history of America, from the Revolution where our victory came from the French ships and cannons that magically appeared right about the same time the British surrendered, to the Cold War which we won by building up masses of weapons that we didn't use. While millions of brave people did something America has never managed to do the staged non-violent revolutions in Poland, the Hungary, then German, czech republic...and so on which again in total coincedence corresponed with the collapse of the USSR. I mean we all know that it was SDI that protected us like it does today...oh wait.

Y'all know how to read (yes I did say Y'all this Northie is 1/2 southern) so how bout your try reading something other then AO posts...try reading the Magic Lantern by Timothy Garton Ash It's the number one book on Punk's the world isn't a big American state reading list.

[hardr0ck68]

Recon I am rather curious just how high up that horse is that you ride on... And I do not loathe this courntry, I for one love it. I loathe people like yourself who believe in one very ignorant Go america, Quarter pounder hold the pickle the rest of the world belief. People who think they have a right to dictate how I express my freedom, I have no need for some uncultured grunt to tell me how I should support America, if only because history shows people with ideals of freedom as pale as their skin manage to lose every war they fight. Now I'm sure your going to tell me about a great list of American wars that us bleeding heart librrrrals didn't want to get into that we won, and I will counter with facts that prove that we didn't and you'll ignore them, we just took claim for others victory cause thats really the history of America, from the Revolution where our victory came from the French ships and cannons that magically appeared right about the same time the British surrendered, to the Cold War which we won by building up masses of weapons that we didn't use. While millions of brave people did something America has never managed to do the staged non-violent revolutions in Poland, the Hungary, then German, czech republic...and so on which again in total coincedence corresponed with the collapse of the USSR. I mean we all know that it was SDI that protected us like it does today...oh wait.

Y'all know how to read (yes I did say Y'all this Northie is 1/2 southern) so how bout your try reading something other then AO posts...try reading the Magic Lantern by Timothy Garton Ash It's the number one book on Punk's the world isn't a big American state reading list.

Better watch out or some self rightious mod who cant compose a decent fact based argument will tell you "your ignorance is hanging out" which i believe is southern code for "i got nothing"

[SCpoloRicker]

Better watch out or some self rightious mod who cant compose a decent fact based argument will tell you "your ignorance is hanging out" which i believe is southern code for "i got nothing"

Army lives in Central CA...

[kosmo]

No, improperly displaying the flag does not bother me. I am proud to be in an army that defends peoples rights to do so.

[M98Punk]

Better my ignorance be hanging out, then hiding behind a flag or a uniform.

[Army]

Better my ignorance be hanging out, then hiding behind a flag or a uniform.

Hiding? I'm right here, serving my country for the last 17 years under the flag that represents her. I've been to Iraq. I've been to Germany. I've been to Kuwait. I've been to Luxembourg. I've been to England. I've seen it, lived it, explored it, researched it, and have concluded by it, that the USA really is better than any other country. How many immigrants are caught trying to get OUT of the USA?

But you would rather be ignorant? That's OK too.

[AO Moderation Team]

Closed. Army, don't pick on the kiddies.