Guns kill things

[Destructo6]

POF-USA offers a gas piston upper that looks promising. It appears to be based on the FALs gas system, but the cost is a bit steep.

You could buy one of the Vector V-93s (HK-93 clone) and find a HarK magazine adaptor to use the M4 mags.

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

Guns don't kill. I do

[Recon by Fire]

Gas piston operation and takes standard M16 mags. Comes out about August this year.

[Target Practice]

Gas piston operation and takes standard M16 mags. Comes out about August this year.

Crap. Ugly crap.

[thecavemankevin]

kel tec 16c

[Steelrat]

Build your own. If you plan on staying in NY, you'll need a pre-ban lower anyways. I would just go with an AR-style rifle, since its probably the best value for you.

EDIT: That sig is ugly as crap. I'd just wait for the SCAR if I was in a no-ban state. You could also get an F2000, which NYers can apparently buy, but they are a bit pricey...

[SCpoloRicker]

RbF: *Sig 556 image*

I'd rather have a folding stock, composite grip, 75 rd drum mag, AK clone.

You know, for tactical entry and whatnot.

[Crighton]

Kel-tec also has a pistol in that cal that takes m16 mags.

[Target Practice]

Kel-tec also has a pistol in that cal that takes m16 mags.

Also crap. Useless, ugly, crap.

[Recon by Fire]

RbF: *Sig 556 image*

I'd rather have a folding stock, composite grip, 75 rd drum mag, AK clone.

You know, for tactical entry and whatnot.

I'm looking at getting pretty much what you are describing, except no stock. Pistol AK. Or maybe just grab an Arsenal SAM-7 AK. I haven't really shot a good AK since the 80's! We had some crappy throw down AK folders in Iraq for "loaners" though.

I do like Sig 556 too though Maybe...

Uh-oh, look what showed up today at work!

Its a Sako TRG42 in 300 WinMag caliber. Strange things are afoot on the old airfield

[kosmo]

Dang, everything in this category is ridiculously expensive, except the "plastic" kel-tec. Oh I dont play by the NY rules either. That sig looks pretty flashy though. I wish they would just renew the law banning 30 rnd mags everywhere so I could just trade a couple dozen suddenly valuable mags for something nice.

[Jeffy-CanCon]

Doesn't the Mini-14 accept M16 mags?

[Target Practice]

Doesn't the Mini-14 accept M16 mags?

Nope.

[edweird]

paging TP... log onto msn havent talked in a while

about the SIG556... Its a smooth rig, id own it.. Sorry TP

on the topic of building an AR-15.... Im doing it, have assisted TP with starting a project and no I wont help anyone else! as when it comes to going to the post office, I suck...

So you have a gripton of M-16 mags, build something that you will be happy and familiar with... like an AR-15

oh on the topic of Kel-tek....... dont buy it unless your looking for a gun for a drop cache incase SHTF, and even then its a disposible POS that id rather use as a club

[Recon by Fire]

id rather use as a club

Never under estimate the usefulness of a club in a pinch