Does anyone know anything about commercial mowers?

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

Ferris has it nailed with their walk behinds Didn't really like Toro and Lesco's Walkbehind.

[Ole Unka Phil]

Who says Hustler is a dying breed? Nonsense. Built like tanks. Even the small ones. Oldest ZTR company in the business.

Ya need to go over to http://www.lawnsite.com/

You obviously NOT going to get much good info here thats for certain.

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

Who says Hustler is a dying breed? Nonsense. Built like tanks. Even the small ones. Oldest ZTR company in the business.

Ya need to go over to http://www.lawnsite.com/

You obviously NOT going to get much good info here thats for certain.

Sry phil its a fact in my area. I use 2 Toro's and Kubota. One of the major companies, KEI, drop them as there front line mower and for how big that company is, plus their time of being around, moving to SCAG's just goes to show you.

[Ole Unka Phil]

Sry phil its a fact in my area. I use 2 Toro's and Kubota. One of the major companies, KEI, drop them as there front line mower and for how big that company is, plus their time of being around, moving to SCAG's just goes to show you.

A lot of those kinds of decisions are not based on equipment. They based on corporate bean counter decisions and behind the scenes deals. Nothing to do with the particular item. But... someone wanting to get in on a company is going to make a loss leader deal to do it. Should not take any thing from it than that. I think your drawing a wrong conclusion from you facts. All the equipment you name is good stuff. Including Hustler.

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

True But I'll still stand by what I know and see. Was looking at there Super Z diesel (sry I would never buy a gas). and read the spec's 34hp Caterpillar its strong but seems a little overpowered for a 60in deck maybe not a 72, remember cut the grass not tear it. though it is nice that they offer a hydraulic lift for the deck but its not stock. Lack of a striper kit and vac system (Vac system isn't a big turn off since I have one on one of my Toro's and Vac cart for my Deere). Should look at demoing a model for fall since my Kubota Z and 325 72in Toro is going down the road here as of right now.

And on a side note I truely hate you guys you make me want to buy more equipment lol

[Steelrat]

Phil, I've been posting over on lawnsite under Steelratt (suprise!).

I tried the one Hustler dealer in my area, but they were a bunch of tools, so Hustler is out, I am afraid

[Ole Unka Phil]

Phil, I've been posting over on lawnsite under Steelratt (suprise!).

I tried the one Hustler dealer in my area, but they were a bunch of tools, so Hustler is out, I am afraid

Yes I saw that. And yea.. if you do not get a good dealer, no matter what you buy, its all a crap shoot. I too would shop a dealer along with the equipment.

Shame your not around here. I got a good one close by. And his prices will beat anyone. In fact people drive down there from all over to buy from him. But part of the reason to buy is to have close by support. One thing I can say and you can see from the Lawnsite forum is that Hustler corportate is very involved in solving problems. Directly involved. Which is sort of like AGD and why we liked AGD. So I tend to look for that sort of thing in anything I buy.

[Steelrat]

Yes I saw that. And yea.. if you do not get a good dealer, no matter what you buy, its all a crap shoot. I too would shop a dealer along with the equipment.

Shame your not around here. I got a good one close by. And his prices will beat anyone. In fact people drive down there from all over to buy from him. But part of the reason to buy is to have close by support. One thing I can say and you can see from the Lawnsite forum is that Hustler corportate is very involved in solving problems. Directly involved. Which is sort of like AGD and why we liked AGD. So I tend to look for that sort of thing in anything I buy.

Well, I just found out that the lawnsite/lawncafe Huster rep, PJ, lives and works right here in Syracuse. He goes out of his way to promote the brand on the forums, and he emailed me to try and work through my issues with the dealership. I'm going to look at a 20/52 fastrack and 19/52 mini-z.

[Ole Unka Phil]

Well, I just found out that the lawnsite/lawncafe Huster rep, PJ, lives and works right here in Syracuse. He goes out of his way to promote the brand on the forums, and he emailed me to try and work through my issues with the dealership. I'm going to look at a 20/52 fastrack and 19/52 mini-z.

I'll be darned. Yea... he is like that. Very proactive. Very good at getting dealers and customers straight. Gets right into the mix with it. Hope it works out for you.

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

Alright phil you convenced me to demo a New Hustler 17hp 48in walk behind first reasons why is that I need another large walk behind for a second crew. Second is that my Ferris is 12 yrs old its a dinosaur it still runs, but still should really look at getting a replacement soon.

Spec's of the demo.
Striping sulky
17hp Kawiasaki
front weights
Pistol Grip steering (Ferris is like that so I should confuse the employee's with a different style steering.)

I'll post my response about it in a weeks time.

[Steelrat]

Hustler's don't use pistol grip steering, unless that is some sort of accessory. They use a proprietary system that they call the "H bar" I believe. Just look at his hands, thats not a pistol grip setup.

Also, the downside to the striping sulky is that it is not fixed. For a hydro WB, I think a sulky with casters might work better, as it will allow ZTR like manueverability. You really can't reverse with a non-fixed sulky.

[TheAngryDrunkenRussian]

Hustler's don't use pistol grip steering, unless that is some sort of accessory. They use a proprietary system that they call the "H bar" I believe. Just look at his hands, thats not a pistol grip setup.

Also, the downside to the striping sulky is that it is not fixed. For a hydro WB, I think a sulky with casters might work better, as it will allow ZTR like manueverability. You really can't reverse with a non-fixed sulky.

they still make a pistol grip model it isn't the hydro H bar its gear driven

http://www.hustlerturfequipment.com/ProductPages/ProductPagesCont/TrimstarGearDrive/TSGDPage/TSGDPage.html

besides if I don't like the sulky I can always take it off.

This what I want to launch my crews with:
Truck 1 F350: Small accounts
20ft trailer
Toro out front 223 62in 4wd
Toro Z master 72in
Ferris Hydrowalk

Truck 2 F450: Medium accounts
22ft trailer
Toro out Front 325 72in 4wd
Toro Z master 60in
demoed Hustler walkbehind

Truck 3 F550: Large accounts
32ft trailer
Toro 580-D 16ft 2wd
Toro 455 10ft 4wd