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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    Firearm enthusiasts

    I have been out of handguns for some time. Now that my children are getting older I am thnking about getting a new one.
    A good friend of mine has an HK USP .45 that he is looking to sell to finance a tactical that he would rather have, and can now legally own with the silencer. I have large hands so the size of the frame isn't an issue. I see them online new around $800 and he is wanting to sell me his which is like new for right at $600.

    Do you think thats a good deal? Are there other things I should look at?

    I have always liked Baretta, but hear that their quality is not what it was. I haven't found anything low end in the Smith or Ruger line that I really like. I am not absolutely crazy about the composite bottom on the USP, but know that HK are nice weapons.
    I don't want anything under a .40 and prefer a .45 I had a 9mm before and was disappointed in it.
  • Recon by Fire
    Enimo Et Fide
    • Mar 2003
    • 1706

    #2
    Guns are bad, they kill people. Citizens should not be allowed to own guns, pnly the police and military, even then they should just have radios and boques of flowers instead of guns.


    If the USP is in like new condition, then $600 sounds pretty fair. It would cost you at least that much for any good pistol anyway.

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    • behemoth
      SVSTC?
      • Nov 2002
      • 7750

      #3
      as long as i gotta baretta, i'm down for whateva.

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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #4
        In the "high end" guns I have not found the HK to live up to its place there. I think there are better guns in that range. I'm personally a fan of the Kimber Ultra Carry I have, its very nice compared to even my Sig Sauer P239 which I really really like. That being said, if you like the gun HK did not become a household name by producing junk.
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        • VFX_Fenix
          -=Bishop=-
          • Sep 2004
          • 1052

          #5
          I'd say go for it. The USP in my limited experience with it is a great pistol, the person who owned the USP I got to mess around with was extremely happy with it. Personally it'd be a toss up between that USP and my Sig 228.

          If you like the .45, you might want to look at a Sig P220, another extremely smooth shootin' .45.

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          • Army
            Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

            • Oct 2000
            • 5785

            #6
            Originally posted by punkncat
            and he is wanting to sell me his which is like new for right at $600.

            Do you think thats a good deal? Are there other things I should look at?
            Do it. Great deal. Nothing wrong with a USP.


            BTW...it's Beretta

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            • Maksimus54
              Registered User
              • Aug 2003
              • 203

              #7
              I'd give a Springfield Armory xd45 a chance. The grips are probably big enough, it can pack 13 or 14 rounds of .45, and it is very reliable on par with glocks.

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              • bornl33t
                hello lamewads
                • Oct 2000
                • 4463

                #8
                I suppose it would depend on what you are going to use it for. After getting 2 .40s I really wished I had a .22 or a 9mm to plink around with. Ammo isn't free and you'd be surprised how much you go through in an hour at the range. The usp is good gun, but for that price you have alot of very nice options. Maybe a trip to the local sportsmans is in order, so you can pick up a few different ones and get an idea what feels good and what not? IMHO

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                • edweird
                  IP lawsuits > innovation
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 1859

                  #9
                  HK has been falling out of public favor for some unknown to me reason for a while... I still have not had any issues with the ones my friends own and think they make a quality product.

                  that being said 600 is fair market price on a used USP and I think your not robbing your self on it.

                  as for alternatives I suggest both SA's XD line and 1911's... I used to hold Kimber on high but CS issues have plagued a few guys up at my gun club, but as for my kimber 1911 ive had nothing worth calling the factory about in the 6 years ive owned it.

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                  • hipster
                    Registered User
                    • May 2005
                    • 106

                    #10
                    I do not the USP ( its a size and balance thing ) but if you fing it comfortable its a good deal

                    for guns of that size the sw99 by S&W and the sig are much smoother shooting

                    I still prefer the glock for an all around all purpose gun.

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                    • Steelrat
                      I meant to...uh, nevermind
                      • May 2003
                      • 5375

                      #11
                      I like the USPs, but I like the H&K P2000s even more, as they are like an evolved USP. I am also a large sig fan, owning three myself, though I have noticed a VERY disturbing tendency on my .40 sig to shove the bullets into the case after they have been rechambered several times.

                      I can not, and will not, recommend a Beretta, having had to live with the them for over 5 years.

                      $600 aint a bad price, but make sure it has night sights on it.


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                      • SCpoloRicker
                        HA HA I'm custom!!1
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4375

                        #12
                        I'm very happy with my full size USP. I looked at Sig 228s as well, and ended up going with HK.
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                        • starchief1959
                          When this baby hits 88mph
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 175

                          #13
                          That is a good asking price for a used (in excellent condition) USP.

                          I would however reccommend a 1911 for the .45 cal.

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                          • mr. right-wing
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 24

                            #14
                            Get a Sig p220. HKs are good guns, but I know a helluvalotta shooters, and theyve had more problems with their USPs then they have with their Sigs. Personal experience was my Dad carried a P226 for 22 years as a LEO and never had one jam after about 30k rounds. The USPs didnt hold up as well. My p220 sport hasnt had a jam ever, and Ive put a good 3K rounds through it.

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                            • punkncat
                              One foot less
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 5841

                              #15
                              As far as feel I really like the way the USP fits in my hand. I am hoping I will be able to find a slip on grip for it....With the clip full its got nice weight and balance , but as it empties becomes nose heavy. I guess its one way or the other when considering composite frames vs. metal ones.
                              I haven't really looked into Sigs, don't know what an SA is, and thought Kimber and Colt 1911's to be well out of my price range. I really like the Commander but hey it isn't a benchmark because it sucks. I am on a fine line in between what I will spend on a firearm and the quality of said piece when also considering every day usefullness.
                              I plan on using this primarily for in home (etc.) defence and want the projectile to carry the weight to take down a bear if need be...or a bear of a man as the case may warrent

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