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  • Grey Goose
    yeah, it's me.
    • May 2004
    • 168

    #1

    Memoirs of a Geisha

    My wife finally made me see this movie... anyone else seen it?

    Anyone else think it's pretty wrong for a grown man to see a young girl on the street and then basically steer her life into prostitution? Or that the story would romanticize and justify it by saying, "it's ok, she *loves* him".

    It's really weird how the women of the world can watch this stuff and call it a romance, and at the same time slam me for thinking scifi and Jet Li movies are masterpieces.

    Sigh.
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  • robnix
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    • Jan 2006
    • 2094

    #2
    Originally posted by Grey Goose
    My wife finally made me see this movie... anyone else seen it?

    Anyone else think it's pretty wrong for a grown man to see a young girl on the street and then basically steer her life into prostitution? Or that the story would romanticize and justify it by saying, "it's ok, she *loves* him".

    It's really weird how the women of the world can watch this stuff and call it a romance, and at the same time slam me for thinking scifi and Jet Li movies are masterpieces.

    Sigh.
    It was the culture in Japan at the time. Wrong or not, it's what was happening there.

    My wife thought Unbreakable was great, and that Memiors of a Geisha was drawn out and very close to boring.

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    • Altimas
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      • Feb 2004
      • 909

      #3
      I cant wait to see Jet Lis latest movie...But Im more excited about the Protector coming out... NO STRINGS FTW!!!
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      • tropical_fishy
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        • Oct 2004
        • 1017

        #4
        Most cultures, including our own, didn't start seeing women as people until recently. In addition to that, in WWII Japan, a 13-14 year old girl is considered an adult. Once again, until recently, the theory has been that if you can have babies, you can get married/have sex/do all that adult stuff. Wrong, sure. But atypical? Probably not.

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        • gibby
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          • Jan 2002
          • 2507

          #5
          At first, I didn't think I'd like that movie. But after watching it, I thought it was actually pretty good. Yeah, the culture in Japan is much different than ours, especially back then. I didn't read too much into the leading a girl into prostitution thing though.

          However, stepping outside of that movie...you have to admit, that girl is pretty attractive!
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          • Grey Goose
            yeah, it's me.
            • May 2004
            • 168

            #6
            Altimas - agree totally. It was sad to see Jet start doing so much wire work when he doesn't have to. He's the shizz wireless.

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            As far as Memoirs, sorry, but I don't buy into the cultural excuse.

            That's like saying Schindler's List depicts acceptable behavior because that was the culture of the region at that time.
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            • tropical_fishy
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              • Oct 2004
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              #7
              Originally posted by Grey Goose
              Altimas - agree totally. It was sad to see Jet start doing so much wire work when he doesn't have to. He's the shizz wireless.

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              As far as Memoirs, sorry, but I don't buy into the cultural excuse.

              That's like saying Schindler's List depicts acceptable behavior because that was the culture of the region at that time.

              Originally posted by Tropical_fishy
              Wrong, sure. But atypical? Probably not.
              PS, the book was much better than the movie.

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              • Grey Goose
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                • May 2004
                • 168

                #8
                Well, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's wrong to make the movie; I just think it's wrong to romanticize it.
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                • Recon by Fire
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1706

                  #9
                  The most disturbing part of the movie was how long and boring it was. It is one DVD we have that will never be watched again.

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                  • gibby
                    Kahuna Studios
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 2507

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Grey Goose
                    As far as Memoirs, sorry, but I don't buy into the cultural excuse.
                    Well, the way I see it, I think most people have a hard time accepting it because we're too stubborn with the belief that our way of life is the only way of life. There's much to learn from other cultures which can be just as beautiful as ours. It's not like our culture is free from criticism either.
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                    • wanna-b-ballin'
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                      • Jan 2005
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                      #11
                      i havent seen it, but if its the movie i think it is, which i'm almost positive it is, then the village scenes were shot in my town.

                      and i heard all the actors were chinese; when geisha is a japanese thing.
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                      • Grey Goose
                        yeah, it's me.
                        • May 2004
                        • 168

                        #12
                        Originally posted by gibby
                        Well, the way I see it, I think most people have a hard time accepting it because we're too stubborn with the belief that our way of life is the only way of life. There's much to learn from other cultures which can be just as beautiful as ours. It's not like our culture is free from criticism either.
                        Wow, talk about taking half a statement and totally twisting it around. It helps to read all the words man.
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                        • lather
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                          • Jul 2004
                          • 591

                          #13
                          American cultural movies are the same, look at Pretty Woman, making a movie about a hooker and romanticizing it.
                          They just forget to mention or edit the part where Richard Gere's charactor finds out that he has contracted herpes and his wallet is missing. Movies (especially romance) are just escapism.
                          Last edited by lather; 09-20-2006, 04:48 AM.
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                          • Pneumagger
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                            • Jun 2006
                            • 3556

                            #14
                            I actually like memoirs of a geisha...

                            But i was forced to watch it with my girlfriend so that makes my heterasexual still.

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                            • tropical_fishy
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                              • Oct 2004
                              • 1017

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pneumagger
                              I actually like memoirs of a geisha...

                              But i was forced to watch it with my girlfriend so that makes my heterasexual still.

                              Keep telling yourself that.

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