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  • tropical_fishy
    KART
    • Oct 2004
    • 1017

    #31
    Originally posted by stop whining buy a mag
    /Steps into flame retardent suit.

    Just an open question here. Why does everyone find it so necessary to help out everyone in need? The rest of the world can't rely on the US (and other powerful nations) to help them everytime their government gets taken over by a militia group or a civil war erupts.
    Because sometimes, people have this little thing called empathy. Sometimes, people look beyond what's happening in their own kitchen, and even their own backyard, and they see the way other people are being treated.

    People (in general, not necessarily governments) need to help people who can't help themselves. When thousands of Rwandans were hacked apart by machetes, the rest of the world STOOD BY AND WATCHED. As thousands of Sudanese are slaughtered in Darfur, the world stands by and watches. As the Jews were massacred in Germany, the world turned a blind eye. So tell me, how well do YOU sleep at night, talking that kind of "I-can't-save-the-world-so-why-try" attitude? Have you thought about what would happen if suddenly being a white male (forgive my assumptions, this is the interwebs after all) was a crime punishable by death? Would you want the world to sit by and chastize you and say, "you can't rely on us whenever you get in trouble..."


    Lastly, as trite and cliche as it is, have a listen:


    When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a communist.

    When they locked up the social democrats,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.

    When they came for the trade unionists,
    I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.

    When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out.

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    • WenULiVeUdiE
      Force of Nature Staff
      • Jan 2004
      • 1982

      #32
      Originally posted by stop whining buy a mag
      /Steps into flame retardent suit.

      Just an open question here. Why does everyone find it so necessary to help out everyone in need? The rest of the world can't rely on the US (and other powerful nations) to help them everytime their government gets taken over by a militia group or a civil war erupts.
      Because some things should truly not happen. It is not about borders. It is not about race. It is not about nationality. It is about humanity...
      Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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      • tropical_fishy
        KART
        • Oct 2004
        • 1017

        #33
        Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
        Because some things should truly not happen. It is not about borders. It is not about race. It is not about nationality. It is about humanity...

        Exactly. Human rights are human rights are human rights. They're universal.

        When a militia takes over a country, it's not the elite that suffer (usually). It's the innocents. And there's no reason they should suffer.

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        • ahellers
          USCG "I save lives"
          • Jan 2006
          • 681

          #34
          Originally posted by tropical_fishy
          Because sometimes, people have this little thing called empathy. Sometimes, people look beyond what's happening in their own kitchen, and even their own backyard, and they see the way other people are being treated.

          People (in general, not necessarily governments) need to help people who can't help themselves. When thousands of Rwandans were hacked apart by machetes, the rest of the world STOOD BY AND WATCHED. As thousands of Sudanese are slaughtered in Darfur, the world stands by and watches. As the Jews were massacred in Germany, the world turned a blind eye. So tell me, how well do YOU sleep at night, talking that kind of "I-can't-save-the-world-so-why-try" attitude? Have you thought about what would happen if suddenly being a white male (forgive my assumptions, this is the interwebs after all) was a crime punishable by death? Would you want the world to sit by and chastize you and say, "you can't rely on us whenever you get in trouble..."


          Lastly, as trite and cliche as it is, have a listen:
          while i agree with your over all message, i do belive that the killing of jews in WWII was hidden from the out side world, at least I know the GIs who came across it had no idea.
          but like I said I agree with you 100%
          t

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          • tropical_fishy
            KART
            • Oct 2004
            • 1017

            #35
            Originally posted by ahellers
            while i agree with your over all message, i do belive that the killing of jews in WWII was hidden from the out side world, at least I know the GIs who came across it had no idea.
            t
            The Germans knew what was going on, at the very least. You can't hide 6 million people disappearing. It just doesn't happen. Yes, some people didn't know, but you can bet your teapot that a fair amount of people knew-- enough to cause a stir.

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            • koleah
              Registered User
              • Jul 2005
              • 797

              #36
              Am I missing the point or is everyone else missing the point? The question was:

              If you could go back in time to one event within your life time where you could make a differnce where would you go?

              Does this mean going back to any event in your lifetime and magically changing things (ie making the planes not hit the buildings), or going back to any event in your life where YOU could actually make a difference (ie stopping the bullies from beating you that time in third grade where you got jumped in the boys bathroom)?

              Cuz Sudan/Darfur/Rwanda/9-11, I'm not so sure one average person could make a difference. Maybe if you could go back and kill Bin Laden or something.

              Although I suppose for the sake of public conversation, that time you got jumped in the third grade isn't that big a deal on the grand scale of whats happened in our lifetimes...

              Clarification ahellers?

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              • warbeak2099
                That is my foot!
                • Jan 2004
                • 4447

                #37
                Ever seen "The Final Countdown" starring Kirk Douglas? I wouldn't mess with time...

                And I quote from the movie, "What if you go back and get into an argument with your grandfather and kill him? It would mean your father was never born and therefore you were never born. And if you were never born, then you could never have gone back in time to kill your grandfather." Messing with the past would cause some kind of paradox no matter what. I don't care if you're preventing Columbine or like in the movie, Pearl Harbor. Even if we could change the past, I wouldn't want to.

                Good movie btw, everyone should see it. And no it was made before the song by Europe. Good song too though...
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                • gus13
                  All Hail The Crimson King!
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 190

                  #38
                  "eddies in the space time continium you see,"
                  "oh, is he?"
                  (a notso direct quote from the Hitchikers guide to the Galaxy)

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                  • kosmo
                    KaPTaiN KeNNy
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 1642

                    #39
                    I would go back a few months and not buy that beer at the German McDonalds. Holy crap, was that a bad beer.
                    Kosmo For President '08, '12, '16... However long it takes

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                    • Maggot6
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 1527

                      #40
                      Quite Honestly, have magically President Bush not elected...

                      Just without Bush, the likelyhood of a few thousand American Citizens being killed (and growing), the massive amount of money blown (and growing), and continuosly growing hatred towards the US would've been deminished by so much...

                      Of course, Gore wasn't a big prize in my eyes either, so it'd have to be someone who looked a little brighter.

                      I always thought when I was wee'er that I'd move to the USA, because it looked like it had so much potential, and well, I still might go there but it looks alot grimmer now..

                      Speaking from a Canadian living in Germany's perspective...

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                      • SCpoloRicker
                        HA HA I'm custom!!1
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4375

                        #41
                        God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                        • MoeMag
                          Still here.
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 1821

                          #42
                          Insert harsh political statements here in agreement with maggot, but from an american.

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                          • tropical_fishy
                            KART
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1017

                            #43
                            Originally posted by koleah
                            Am I missing the point or is everyone else missing the point? The question was:

                            If you could go back in time to one event within your life time where you could make a differnce where would you go?

                            Does this mean going back to any event in your lifetime and magically changing things (ie making the planes not hit the buildings), or going back to any event in your life where YOU could actually make a difference (ie stopping the bullies from beating you that time in third grade where you got jumped in the boys bathroom)?

                            Cuz Sudan/Darfur/Rwanda/9-11, I'm not so sure one average person could make a difference. Maybe if you could go back and kill Bin Laden or something.

                            Although I suppose for the sake of public conversation, that time you got jumped in the third grade isn't that big a deal on the grand scale of whats happened in our lifetimes...

                            Clarification ahellers?
                            I guess most of us figure, that since, you know, we're magically going back in time that we would magically have the power to change the things we want to change, right?

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                            • Altimas
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 909

                              #44
                              Yes...and therefore I am not retarded because i want everyone to have super powers and one final Super melee. However I am a nerd that enjoys Comic books to much.
                              "If we aren't supposed to eat animals...why did God invent BBQ sauce?" - Army
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                              • geekwarrior
                                MIA
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 2581

                                #45
                                Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
                                should have translated that into german

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