I think I figured out women

[tropical_fishy]

Tropical Fishy,

I've tapped out to girls before and blah blah blah (you would tl;dr if I went on), but when it comes to relationships I still find some sort of switch that turns a girl crazy and illogical. I haven't experienced anything too far out yet. As you said, it's okay to lust after others... How come girls go absolutely crazy if you have a lapse and just stare at some other girl in her presence? I mean, the worst for me is having the girl just give me look and then she gives me crap about it later in the evening. But in other cases, I've seen it ruin relationships! WTF is up with that?

just want some inside insight about why some girls think it's such a big deal that they aren't the only attractive girl in the world.

I can't speak for all women, but... perhaps it is DISRESPECTFUL and MORONIC to stare at women in general, let ALONE in the presence of the person you are supposedly in a relationship with? We know we aren't the only girl you're ever going to find attractive. But when you make it blatant that your eyes are wandering, how are we supposed to trust you, EVER? Once again, I can't speak for all women, but I have NEVER heard any of my friends ramble about how all she wants in a guy is an attractive guy who buys her nice things. I want, from my significant other, to feel loved and cared for. Perhaps it is not the female being crazy or illogical, but you being insensitive and confused.

[Lohman446]

To deny base physical attraction on the side of either sex I beleive must be ludicrous. Should I get upset if my g/f looks at someone? Nah, who cares if she looks, if it does not interfere with our relationship. Now if she moves on those looks, or if she looks to the point of being rude to our conversation, then I have an issue.

[trevorjk]

Perhaps. I am anti-chick flick, but I know you're pretty much guaranteed a free pass into most girl's pants if you put on The Notebook or A Walk To Remember.

ha! thats why i have that movie

[FooTemps]

I can't speak for all women, but... perhaps it is DISRESPECTFUL and MORONIC to stare at women in general, let ALONE in the presence of the person you are supposedly in a relationship with? We know we aren't the only girl you're ever going to find attractive. But when you make it blatant that your eyes are wandering, how are we supposed to trust you, EVER? Once again, I can't speak for all women, but I have NEVER heard any of my friends ramble about how all she wants in a guy is an attractive guy who buys her nice things. I want, from my significant other, to feel loved and cared for. Perhaps it is not the female being crazy or illogical, but you being insensitive and confused.

I see, like lohman said... It's ludicrous do deny base physical attraction. I've wandered on accident and girls don't mind, they just make jokes. But then on the other hand, I've seen guys make the same mistake (not even an obvious look, maybe just a small glance) and get torn apart for it. I'm just curious if it is a thing to do with security about one's self like how some guys get all crazy if their girlfriend looks or says something about another guy.

And I speak for lot of men when I say I've heard them ramble on about how they want some movie chick flick dream guy everyday. It's annoying being called a slob when you're the one cleaning the house more often than the girl who is calling you the slob.

edit: by them i mean girlfriends. just to clarify

[sniper1rfa]

I dunno tropical_fishy....


I'd say that, as a whole, women are far more emotional, and that leads to being illogical on more occasions than men. And i gotta say, most of my female friends agree that women have a predisposition to being emotional witches.

Then again, men are, as a whole, a bit shallow, and perhaps a bit less devoted than women.

That is not to say that women are always witches and that men have no deep thoughts, just that the dispositions are there. Stereotypes may not be nice, but many of them aren't as off-the-mark as one might think.


Also, girls are definitely more complicated than guys. No doubt about it. Guys are pretty simple - they generally try to get what they want, generally aren't too subtle in tense situations, and usually speak their mind. Life is mainly self centered and they don't delve deep into the meaning of things. I think i speak for most guys when i say guys pretty much try to say what they mean, in a way that leaves as little room for interpretation as possible. Yet girls still try to eek every last ounce of meaning out of what we say. For instance, when a guy says to a girl "we should get lunch," the girl tries to determine whether or not the guy is coming on to her, or what his motive is. The guy actually said "it's roughly noon and i'm hungry, making the meal of choice lunch."


And i'm with Foo, i couldn't count the times i've seen a girl express an open and unshamed desire to touch/see naked/sleep with/etc. some hot actor or some hot guy their friend knows right in front of their boyfriends.... If they can do that, we can look all we want. I HATE that. There is nothing that puts me off more than being unfavourably compared to some prick actor who they will never meet, whose personality they don't know, who probably isn't at all like he is on film....

It drives me nuts, and to be honest it makes me feel like ****. If they want him so bad, they shouldnt be hanging around and hitting on me. They shouldn't be dating me, and they definitely shouldn't profess their deep feelings for me.

[FooTemps]

And i'm with Foo, i couldn't count the times i've seen a girl express an open and unshamed desire to touch/see naked/sleep with/etc. some hot actor or some hot guy their friend knows right in front of their boyfriends.... If they can do that, we can look all we want. I HATE that. There is nothing that puts me off more than being unfavourably compared to some prick actor who they will never meet, whose personality they don't know, who probably isn't at all like he is on film....

It drives me nuts, and to be honest it makes me feel like ****. If they want him so bad, they shouldnt be hanging around and hitting on me. They shouldn't be dating me, and they definitely shouldn't profess their deep feelings for me.

Seems like I'm not the only one fed up with movie actor/sports player/hot guy down the street comments... lol

If girls can say those things, how come guys can't get off with a glance every once and a while? Talk about double standards.

[warbeak2099]

My girlfriend dreamt that we had a threesome with Johnny Depp.

/True story
//No rly
///Kapitaen Jack Sparrowzorz!

[FARMER00]

Women are petty and jealous creatures who defy all logical explanation.

dude, u could have written the bible

[sniper1rfa]

Seems like I'm not the only one fed up with movie actor/sports player/hot guy down the street comments... lol

No, you aren't. Definitely not. That is one thing that will get me actually pissed off. Very little pisses me off, but that is definitely one of them. There isn't much worse than cuddling with a cute girl watching a movie, only to hear, in a serious tone of voice, "he is SO hot. i'd do that."



Get the hell out of my house, *****.

[NotKai]

I am the only logical being in the universe.

[tropical_fishy]

So, um, let me get this straight. It's PERFECTLY okay for you, as a guy, to look another woman up and down like a piece of meat, but an "I'd hit that," about a movie star, from your girlfriend is absolutely unacceptable. Riiiight. Men are incredibly logical beings. I am almost blown away by the perfect logic of the situation. Once again, I shall refer you back to my distaste for hypocrisy.

Why does being emotional=being illogical? Emotions are part of being human; logic is not cold, logic is not infallible. What is wrong with allowing emotions to color our interactions with other people? What, pray tell, is wrong with doing what "feels" right versus what is defined by society as right? What's wrong with helping someone, or doing the emotionally correct thing, and providing the best outcome for everyone, whereas the stereotypical "male" way of doing things is purely black and white? There's one winner and everyone else loses, versus a compromise where everyone wins a little and everyone loses a little. It keeps things moderate. Everything in society has nuances and tiny facets, and no two situations are the same. Perhaps men would do well to take less of an absolutist approach to life. I am an extremely logical person, but I do not let logic, and the theory that everything in the world is equal to the sum of its parts, rule me. The world is so much more than that.


Guys, imho, are not simple. More straightforward, yes, but they're also human beings. They have thoughts, ideas, feelings, etc, etc... that alone makes them complicated. They are socialized to be "sex, food, beer" beings, whereas women are taught from a young age to be "nice." Men are taught to never show emotion, but even more importantly, they're taught that it's absolutely okay to show aggression. Girls aren't allowed that same luxury. Being a nice girl entails never raising your voice, never fighting, never being promiscuous, never flaunting your intelligence, etc. This leads to women having to find more subtle ways of expressing their anger and jealousy at fellow women. You can't be a nice girl if you just told off a girl to her face; it's much easier to spread a rumor about how much of a slut she is. You can either conform to these prescribed roles, or you can choose not to. If you take into account the fact that women are shoved into a society where they HAVE to be sneaky to preserve their image and still make it to the top, it's easy to see why they look for hidden meaning in your words.

[billybob_81067]

So, um, let me get this straight. It's PERFECTLY okay for you, as a guy, to look another woman up and down like a piece of meat, but an "I'd hit that," about a movie star, from your girlfriend is absolutely unacceptable. Riiiight. Men are incredibly logical beings. I am almost blown away by the perfect logic of the situation. Once again, I shall refer you back to my distaste for hypocrisy.

Why does being emotional=being illogical? Emotions are part of being human; logic is not cold, logic is not infallible. What is wrong with allowing emotions to color our interactions with other people? What, pray tell, is wrong with doing what "feels" right versus what is defined by society as right? What's wrong with helping someone, or doing the emotionally correct thing, and providing the best outcome for everyone, whereas the stereotypical "male" way of doing things is purely black and white? There's one winner and everyone else loses, versus a compromise where everyone wins a little and everyone loses a little. It keeps things moderate. Everything in society has nuances and tiny facets, and no two situations are the same. Perhaps men would do well to take less of an absolutist approach to life. I am an extremely logical person, but I do not let logic, and the theory that everything in the world is equal to the sum of its parts, rule me. The world is so much more than that.


Guys, imho, are not simple. More straightforward, yes, but they're also human beings. They have thoughts, ideas, feelings, etc, etc... that alone makes them complicated. They are socialized to be "sex, food, beer" beings, whereas women are taught from a young age to be "nice." Men are taught to never show emotion, but even more importantly, they're taught that it's absolutely okay to show aggression. Girls aren't allowed that same luxury. Being a nice girl entails never raising your voice, never fighting, never being promiscuous, never flaunting your intelligence, etc. This leads to women having to find more subtle ways of expressing their anger and jealousy at fellow women. You can't be a nice girl if you just told off a girl to her face; it's much easier to spread a rumor about how much of a slut she is. You can either conform to these prescribed roles, or you can choose not to. If you take into account the fact that women are shoved into a society where they HAVE to be sneaky to preserve their image and still make it to the top, it's easy to see why they look for hidden meaning in your words.

You're being too emotional...

[tropical_fishy]

You're being too emotional...

If disgusted counts as emotional, sure.

[FooTemps]

Tropical Fishy,

I don't look girls up and down like piece of meat, I treat them like humans and I respect them. When I expect to be intimate with a girl, I find it disrespectful for them to full heartedly say, "That guy is better than you, why can't you be a 6' handsome guy with money and a 'heartbreaking story' that I can identify with?" That's what a lot of guys interpret in, "I'd hit that" or "I wish I was her" or "he's the perfect man, all good guys should be like that."

Is it intentional for a girl to say that to a guy knowing that it is just as hypocritical as criticizing a guy for glancing at a girl?

That'd be the equivalent of me saying to a girl... "Dat gurl is teh bettorz, hackz some bewbz, and grow some brains!1!!!"

edit: elaborated on the interpretation of "i'd hit it", "i wish i was :insert protagonist girl:"

[Indignant]

So, um, let me get this straight. It's PERFECTLY okay for you, as a guy, to look another woman up and down like a piece of meat, but an "I'd hit that," about a movie star, from your girlfriend is absolutely unacceptable. Riiiight.

FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS




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