Windows Vista

[bornl33t]

/slight thread jack

as i was watching the last half hour of LOST one of those normally dumb Apple comercials came on. when ever the PC dude wanted to reply to something the apple guy said, a dude wearing a black suit and glasses kept saying "mac is.....do you want to respond? cancel or allow". i was actually rolling on the floor. my dad got it also, but not my sisters. anybody else see it? well, here's the link.

http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/

it's the one labeled "Security"

"you are comming to a sad realization, cancel or allow? allow..."

/end thread jack

*edit* the Surgery one is pretty funny also.

yeah except so far all of them are down right false advertising or hypocritical. Wouldn't you like to buy a new Monitor with HDCP for your mac? Or that's right, YOU CAN'T CAUSE IT"S ONE BIG BOX WITH EVERYTHING IN IT.

[robnix]

yeah except so far all of them are down right false advertising or hypocritical. Wouldn't you like to buy a new Monitor with HDCP for your mac? Or that's right, YOU CAN'T CAUSE IT"S ONE BIG BOX WITH EVERYTHING IN IT.

Only the imac's are. Powermac's and macmini's can use any external monitor. The real problem lies in making sure that you're video card is HDCP compliant.

[WickeDKlowN]

yeah. theres this new workaround, its called linux.

Linux has come a long way since I first tried Mandrake years ago, and SuSE 10.1 is really quite nice, but I just can't bring myself to make the switch.

actually, microsoft has said that they won't try and lock out the upgrade bug. you can use the upgrade disk to give a full install of vista without having to install xp or 2000 first. http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/02...rade_loophole/

makes one kinda think about getting vista, except drivers are still kinda sketchy. http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/02...igans_roll_on/

You've always been able to do a clean install from an Upgrade disc as long as you had an older Windows disc to prove you were upgrading.

[RRfireblade]

Hmm , funny to see this. I've been messing with Vista on a new machine for a little bit now and trying to make up my mind on it.

Overall it functions quite well , no major bugs or issues that I've experienced so far. Far better than all other MS new releases I've delt with so for. Might be a little TOO integrated but the newbs will like that a bunch.

I am however , getting tired of each new OS getting BIGGER and far more DEMANDING on your system. It's like hardware finally gets to where it can hang nicely with an OS and then they drop a safe on it's head and you have to start all over.

A clean install takes more HD space than I've had on some complete systems in the past and it'll eat like half a gig of ram running basic functions and the Aero desktop.

That and hardly anything runs on it yet , including a few MS products I've tried so far.

IDK , glad I have a number of other PCs to work with.

[slade]

Linux has come a long way since I first tried Mandrake years ago, and SuSE 10.1 is really quite nice, but I just can't bring myself to make the switch.

any reason in specific? you could always make the half switch. i still have a windows partition for when i absolutely need it. a few propriety programs still have no linux counterpart, and using WINE (windows compatibility layer for linux) is hit or miss.

[WickeDKlowN]

any reason in specific? you could always make the half switch. i still have a windows partition for when i absolutely need it. a few propriety programs still have no linux counterpart, and using WINE (windows compatibility layer for linux) is hit or miss.

There's no one reason in particular, it's more of a collection of small things that annoy me. Plus I can't find a torrent client worth a damn.

[slade]

There's no one reason in particular, it's more of a collection of small things that annoy me. Plus I can't find a torrent client worth a damn.

the opera web browser works fine for me, but i rarely use torrents. theres also azureus, but i take it you've already tried that.

[Smoothice]

I've been reading everybodies posts in this thread and it sounds like this:

Older machines may have trouble running vista because of hardware.

I get that.

Here is my question.

I am being forced to get a new laptop for work.

It will be a Dell and therefore will come with Vista.

Should I be worried about slow performance or will it work well as part of a new system?

[slade]

well, dell should start selling computers preloaded with linux soon...

but it should work adequately, i'm sure you can turn off all the eye candy at least.

[robnix]

I've been reading everybodies posts in this thread and it sounds like this:

Older machines may have trouble running vista because of hardware.

I get that.

Here is my question.

I am being forced to get a new laptop for work.

It will be a Dell and therefore will come with Vista.

Should I be worried about slow performance or will it work well as part of a new system?

Without knowing the specs of the laptop, there's no way to comment on the performance. You can still buy laptops with XP from Dell, or if your company is providing it, I'd be pretty surprised if they actually gave it to you with Vista on it. I know that none of the people that I've talked to have any plans to deploy Vista any time soon.

[RRfireblade]

It's not really a performance issue (for me) , it's mostly compatibilty with existing software.

Hardware it handles ok if said hardware meets the min requirements for Vista . . . which are a tad high.

[Lomarandil]

Right.. a lot of software won't work with it..

I was wanting to get XP... but the deal I got on a new Vista was very good... so I ended up with that...

so far, after two months of heavy use, maybe froze four times, one major crash (I fixed it.. but put tech support in a fizzle)... and half a dozen software issues... nothing too major though...

I'm recommending to all my friends, get XP if you still can, but Vista's alright, assuming you don't need a lot of software..

Lo

[thecavemankevin]

a lawyer at my firm brought in his new Dell laptop a couple days ago that he just bought and of course it came with vista. I played with it for about 15-20 minutes and my first impression is you can keep it. I'll stick with XP for now. Dude had 2 gigs of ram in that monster of a laptop and at boot/idle it was sucking down between 25-30% of available memory. And no he had not loaded anything onto it yet (just unboxed it the night before)

[ntn4502]

I just loaded vista up, it takes more ram than your mother

[Smoothice]

Without knowing the specs of the laptop, there's no way to comment on the performance. You can still buy laptops with XP from Dell, or if your company is providing it, I'd be pretty surprised if they actually gave it to you with Vista on it. I know that none of the people that I've talked to have any plans to deploy Vista any time soon.

Not all of Dells models come with the option of xp. The 1st one I selected only offered Vista. After I read the details of all the models and checked out some of the higher priced models I found that I could choose between xp and vista.

I ended up getting xp. The system has the minimum requirements for vista in case I decide to upgrade later.