Al Gores inconvienient truth...

[CasingBill]

You do realise there are other means of recording temperatures and sea levels?, we know temperatures that where present before man even existed.
This is a fact.

Also I find it funny how you sem to be the only country in the entire world than doesn't believe the accepted theory of global warming.
Also the presedent neatly changed his stance about global warming in 03/04ish agreeing with the majority that global warming is accelerated by mankind.


Al gore, who cares what he does anyway? He has probably done more positivework than negative. Almost all politicians are in it for themselves in my opinion, why would he be any different?


p.s. If the worlds leader's agree with the theory as readily as they agree with evolution why are people so unable to see the bigge rpicture?
It has been PROVEN that companies such as Exxon have funded illigitamate research to try and discredit the theory, yet they have not even been published in a scientific journal.
Lets think why would Exxon try to do this..................MONEY.


My 2p.

HEY JACKHOLE!!! Most of the people in that video that completely discredit the human attribution to global warming are from the UK!

[Phillips]

Believe me they are in the severe minority, by the way I did not mean it as offensive. I just found it amusing why people find human accelerated global warming so hard to believe, for instance some people who did not realise that we could recover evidence to show temperatures before mankind even existed.

By the way I would like to see you call me that to my face, agression is always the first weapon of an idiot.

p.s. If the worlds best scientists believe that human accelerated global warming exists, then that is good enough for me. The worlds most powerful governments believe in human accelerated global warming, including the English/ Welsh government, Presedent Bush, China and I could go on.

[CasingBill]

Believe me they are in the severe minority, by the way I did not mean it as offensive. I just found it amusing why people find human accelerated global warming so hard to believe, for instance some people who did not realise that we could recover evidence to show temperatures before mankind even existed.

By the way I would like to see you call me that to my face, agression is always the first weapon of an idiot.

p.s. If the worlds best scientists believe that human accelerated global warming exists, then that is good enough for me. The worlds most powerful governments believe in human accelerated global warming, including the English/ Welsh government.

Umm...I would have no problem telling you you're a jackhole to your face. Oh, but I didn't mean it as offensive....lol.

watch the video.....the scientists in the vid, have the same opinions as most of us have already stated. they could easily come up with 2500 scientists against global warming. and that authors shouldn't count as scientists.....theres also no mention of them being the "worlds best scientists" as you put it.....just scientists.

[Phillips]

Yes there is, look for the scientists top in their fields of expertise, i.e. climate change.
Answer me one signle question, why if human accelerated global warming doesn't exist would basicly all of the world's governments believe in the theory, aswell as putting billions into helping prevent such acceleration?
The Bush administration has even changed their stance, Tony blair has always been a supporter of combatting accelerated climate change.

I would take an example of Steven Hawking, he blieves that human accelerated global warming exists, although it would be far more valuable putting money and resources into tackling things such as famine, disseas and drought.
He has more intelligence than most if not all on this forum, It's not as if these views are not widespread or are coming from misinformed people.


God I hate Tommy tankers.

[bentothejam1n]

Answer me one signle question, why if human accelerated global warming doesn't exist would basicly all of the world's governments believe in the theory, aswell as putting billions into helping prevent such acceleration?
The Bush administration has even changed their stance, Tony blair has always been a supporter of combatting accelerated climate change.

My explantion for that would be approval rates. The media has scared people into believing that man has caused global warming. Now that people are scared they want to see their government do something about it. The candidate whose views support research and prevention of so called global warming, will get a good chunk of votes over another candidate who has the exact same views except on global warming. You said President Bush changed his views around 03/04. Hmmm that seems right around election time.

[Phillips]

Oh I agree with you there, although the governments don't agree that mankind caused global warming, just that it sped the entire process up.
I doubt that an entire government would fabricate something with such huge consiquences because of approval rates, if that where so I know at least Britain would not have any troops left in Iraq.

p.s. Blair has always maintained that human accelerated global warming exists, with no correlation to how popular or unpopular the idea was or is.

[trevorjk]

even if humans are not accelerating global warming, it sure is nice to finally have all the big companies lower there emissions and green house gases. it also boost in the design of more modern vehicles that does not rely on a gas supply that will run out. all im saying is this whole global warming thing is definetly advancing technology to help keep our earth clean. and you cant argue with that.

[grEnAlEins]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...65474899458831

quick up for a looong video disputing man made global warming.

No kidding, it was looong... but very interesting. Well worth the watch IMHO

[bentothejam1n]

even if humans are not accelerating global warming, it sure is nice to finally have all the big companies lower there emissions and green house gases. it also boost in the design of more modern vehicles that does not rely on a gas supply that will run out. all im saying is this whole global warming thing is definetly advancing technology to help keep our earth clean. and you cant argue with that.

agreed

[Mind'sEye]

Also I find it funny how you sem to be the only country in the entire world than doesn't believe the accepted theory of global warming.

It's a difference in philosophy. There are many people in the U.S. who continue to resist adoption by the "Nanny State" also. The primary weapon of tyranny is fear. What better way to promote a global system of government than with global fear? The fact that you, over there, cannot tell us what to do over here is a good thing. You can't compare the U.S. to a European country or even all of Western Europe. http://goeurope.about.com/od/europea...arison-map.htm We are a much larger republic. California, the world's 6th largest economy, has set a 25% reduction in carbon dioxide emissions by 2020 and reduction to 1990 levels by 2012. It'll be up to other the states to decide what they want to do. For instance, Tennessee may not feel the need to impose targets. According to the NASA GISS 126 year official record for Nashville, there appears to have been too much natural flucuation in the surface temperatures over the years to be able to determine whether or not Al Gore's excessive energy consumption is having a significant impact on the area.



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[Tunaman]

Did you all know that TERMITES produce more methane in one year that does more damage to the ozone layer than all of mankinds best efforts to destroy the planet with hydrocarbons?
Global warming is a crock of crap. Hey Al? Does the 10 years it will take to destroy the planet start from when you first said it or does it start from today...again. Better hurry and propogate kiddies...ain't much time left! We are all doomed!

[Dark Side]

Did you all know that TERMITES produce more methane in one year that does more damage to the ozone layer than all of mankinds best efforts to destroy the planet with hydrocarbons?

I love National Geographic.

Lets not forget-------

Swamp gas - lots of Methane there.
Volcanoes - Has nothing to do with Global Warming, Al said so.
Geyser eruptions - Who knows what's in there
Undersea methane eruptions - Once again Methane.
Earth is coming out of an Ice Age- Who knew.
I guess it's my fault too, I had the Cats cut off of my exhaust.

I know, lets start a world wide campaign against termites. The 2 degrees raise in average world wide temp since the Industrial Revolution about 130 years ago is stupid to even bring up. It's less than a blink of the eye in our world's life. I have not seen here the truth that these greenhouse gases are not affecting us as they used to. NASA had pics taken since the 70's of the Ozone layer, even the hole over Anartica. Since then there has been (If I remember then percentage correctly) a %300 decrease in it's size. And that was in the 90s that I last saw a comparison done.

Believe me they are in the severe minority, by the way I did not mean it as offensive. I just found it amusing why people find human accelerated global warming so hard to believe, for instance some people who did not realise that we could recover evidence to show temperatures before mankind even existed.

By the way I would like to see you call me that to my face, agression is always the first weapon of an idiot.

p.s. If the worlds best scientists believe that human accelerated global warming exists, then that is good enough for me. The worlds most powerful governments believe in human accelerated global warming, including the English/ Welsh government, Presedent Bush, China and I could go on.

Do not forget since we are on the subject of what Governments believe. It was not that long ago that...
The world was square.
The Earth was the center of the universe.
The Church was far more powerful than the English Monarchy (I believe this was what ensured the Dark Ages)
Minorities and women were lower class citizens IF considered at all.
Don't get me started on the Third Reich.

Just because entire governments believe it, well you know where I am going. Never believe what a man tells you, especially if that man told you he invented the internet.

[bleachit]

Never believe what a man tells you, especially if that man told you he invented the internet.

but he also saved us from Manbearpig... that has to count for something!

[ntn4502]

/Just got back from our polar research center(always a good time, besides it being freaking freezing)

I would argue points with you, yet I know whatever the fact I try prove to you guys, somebody well throw up some numbers from a rogue scientist claiming the opposite,(I could probably find a recent report saying the world is flat). My point being that no matter what is said throughout the thread nobody is gonna change their mind on the subject because they know deep down that whatever their 9th grade civics teacher/local newspaper/parents have told them is true.

I have been to about a dozen seminars that have gone to polar extremes in terms of their stances as to not let bias be a hinderance to my own personal beliefs. If anybody would like to talk to me further on it, talk to me further get ahold of me on aim or pm. If you would rather read about subject, then you can find some things over on http://www.ipcc.ch/

Nelson

[wjr]

/Just got back from our polar research center(always a good time, besides it being freaking freezing)

I would argue points with you, yet I know whatever the fact I try prove to you guys, somebody well throw up some numbers from a rogue scientist claiming the opposite,(I could probably find a recent report saying the world is flat). My point being that no matter what is said throughout the thread nobody is gonna change their mind on the subject because they know deep down that whatever their 9th grade civics teacher/local newspaper/parents have told them is true.

I have been to about a dozen seminars that have gone to polar extremes in terms of their stances as to not let bias be a hinderance to my own personal beliefs. If anybody would like to talk to me further on it, talk to me further get ahold of me on aim or pm. If you would rather read about subject, then you can find some things over on http://www.ipcc.ch/

Nelson

Cool! I never would have thought there was a geologist on the boards. Keep up the good work!

What organization are you currently working for?