Silencers - they always seem to pop up in discussion. Here's the facts...

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  • Pneumagger
    I like 'Mags.

    • Jun 2006
    • 3556

    #1

    Silencers - they always seem to pop up in discussion. Here's the facts...

    So I was cruising youtube tonight and found a particularly good video. It's in anti-english talk, so bear with it. It talks about the different guns he will be shooting then goes on to explain that a gunshot has a "gas/gun sound" and a "supersonic sound" (if supersonic).

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    Basically, the point is to show how a Silencer is not quite like the movies. A silencer can silence the gun superbly, but the report of a supersonic bullet will still be VERY loud. This is shown with the normal 9mm demo omn the first gun - basically no net change when the silencer is added. But as you can see, a subsonic 22LR with a supressor is DRASTICALLY quieter with only the clatering of the slide. James Bond anyone?

    It's not just because the 22LR is a smaller round either - becasue late in the video he shows some (presumably weaker handloaded) subsonic 9mm cartridges which have the same silenced effect as the 22LR. He also fires a 22LR from a rifle as well (supersonic) to show that the 22LR supersonic is not-so-silenced, even though the same round is quieted in the pistol. The Graph near the end of the video shows the 3 different ammunition velocities and the sound barrier line in red - very helpful vid indeed and gives a realistic view top silencers.

    Basically, keep the bullet subsonic, and you can almost silence the gun. If not, your wasting your time. Although a subsonic 22LR might not have much manstoppage... I'm sure a subsonic 9mm could ruin your day.
  • Pneumagger
    I like 'Mags.

    • Jun 2006
    • 3556

    #2
    A good one for rifles.

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    • neppo1345
      I Will Eat Your Children..
      • Oct 2005
      • 1913

      #3
      Wow.

      If only way there was a way to silence the action.

      Edit: Joe...why are you looking this stuff up?

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      • geekwarrior
        MIA
        • Oct 2005
        • 2581

        #4
        Originally posted by neppo1345
        Wow.

        If only way there was a way to silence the action.

        Edit: Joe...why are you looking this stuff up?

        lazers.

        pew pew


        edit to your edit: i was wondering the same thing

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        • geekwarrior
          MIA
          • Oct 2005
          • 2581

          #5
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          • Carbon
            Word!
            • Jan 2003
            • 1589

            #6
            sweet i'll check those out at home tonite.

            heres some other silencer related stuff


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            • Pneumagger
              I like 'Mags.

              • Jun 2006
              • 3556

              #7
              Originally posted by neppo1345
              Wow.

              If only way there was a way to silence the action.

              Edit: Joe...why are you looking this stuff up?
              eh, I was looking up some dissasembly videos for a Chinese SKS cause I couldn't get mine apart. One thing led to another and pretty soon I was looking at all sorts of neat youtube stuff. I just remember coming across this discussion of silencers recently, and thought the vids might shed some light on hollywood falasies

              Also, are armor piercing bullets illegal? In the box with the SKS i was fooling with there were about cuple hundred rounds of armor piercing 7.62mm ammo.

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              • rkjunior303
                I need this more than you
                • May 2003
                • 4029

                #8
                Originally posted by Pneumagger
                eh, I was looking up some dissasembly videos for a Chinese SKS cause I couldn't get mine apart. One thing led to another and pretty soon I was looking at all sorts of neat youtube stuff. I just remember coming across this discussion of silencers recently, and thought the vids might shed some light on hollywood falasies

                Also, are armor piercing bullets illegal? In the box with the SKS i was fooling with there were about cuple hundred rounds of armor piercing 7.62mm ammo.
                i would have to say yes.

                arent silencers illegal, too?

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                • skife
                  Unregistered User
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 2769

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pneumagger

                  Also, are armor piercing bullets illegal? In the box with the SKS i was fooling with there were about cuple hundred rounds of armor piercing 7.62mm ammo.

                  you can buy them at gun shows, so probably not. Why would they be ileagle?




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                  • Pneumagger
                    I like 'Mags.

                    • Jun 2006
                    • 3556

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rkjunior303
                    i would have to say yes.

                    arent silencers illegal, too?
                    Slencers are legal with the right paperwork in the right state. Even then, the tax to own one is hundreds of dollars.

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                    • rkjunior303
                      I need this more than you
                      • May 2003
                      • 4029

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pneumagger
                      Slencers are legal with the right paperwork in the right state. Even then, the tax to own one is hundreds of dollars.
                      lol, is there even a practical use for one unless you work in a small italian restaurant in the north end of Boston?

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                      • PyRo
                        President Bioloaf inc.
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 10186

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rkjunior303
                        lol, is there even a practical use for one unless you work in a small italian restaurant in the north end of Boston?
                        Don't get started on the practical use train.

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                        • Pneumagger
                          I like 'Mags.

                          • Jun 2006
                          • 3556

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rkjunior303
                          lol, is there even a practical use for one unless you work in a small italian restaurant in the north end of Boston?
                          Well, some people use them on the small 22 pistols for quiet rodent extermination and also some people use them at the shooting ranges for hearing protection. So on a pistol I can see the benefit of a silencer.

                          On a rifle, I have yet to find a plausible non military use. Rifles are made to be accurate aand long range, and supressors hurt accuracy - so I have no clue when somebody would want one (for legal uses).

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                          • Pacifist_Farmer
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 740

                            #14
                            I being hyper sensitive to my impact on others would love to be able to take a silenced ruger out plinking, you could shoot all day and no one would even know.

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                            • behemoth
                              SVSTC?
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 7750

                              #15
                              I'm trying to remember if i've ever given joe my home address.....


                              Oh god.

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