more info on RT

[marked74]

Hey All,

Just getting started posting, been lurking for a while. I played paintball years ago when my friends and I all used pump guns (still have my PMI Piranha LB). I've more recently acquired a modded Mag from a friend, who got it off the bay and doesn't know much about it. I've had it in for service so that it works, but I'm still working on getting it tuned to my liking etc. Here's what I know about it -

valve - s/n RT00058 (is this an oldie but a goodie?)
frame - dual trigger, wood grips, flat black finish
mainbody and rail are metallic blue, though def. not anodized since it scratches fairly easily, right side feed
didn't come with a barrel so I picked a new stock barrel cheap, but I'm also in the process of purchasing a 12" and a 14" from the classifieds here

I'm guessing, especially due to the low s/n, that this is an Automag RT (not an RT ULE or RT Pro), but I can't be 100% sure. I've done some searching here and, well, 'rt' and 'rt valve' either return 500 hits or won't even return any because they're too numerous...

So, keeping in mind that I've got some paintball gun experience, but with a pump/CO2 powered gun - where can a guy go to find out more about his marker?

Thanks!!!

[michbich]

The major differences with RT are the valve. It's almost completly covered by the body. Also, the airline passes through the rail before entering the valve.

If you post a pic of your marker here, helping you would make it easier.

[marked74]

The major differences with RT are the valve. It's almost completly covered by the body. Also, the airline passes through the rail before entering the valve.

If you post a pic of your marker here, helping you would make it easier.

Yup - my valve is almost completely covered by the body (couldn't read a thing off it until I field stripped it), and there's an airline on the right side of the gun from the rail to the foregrip (gas thru), and that has an air line to the bottle mount thing. I'll get some pics tonight, both assembled and disassembled.

Thanks!

[snoopay700]

If you've got any questions about it pm me, mainly because i've gotta take off right now, but yeah, i want to steal your valve because it's newer than mine by about 5000 valves.

[athomas]

Thats definately an original Automag RT and has a very low serial number. Good find. You should remove the blue paint off the body and return it back to its original stainless luster. It wouldn't hurt to remove the paint off the rail too. Paint has a way of changing the tolerances due to its thickness. Get a RT kit and give the valve a good cleaning and replace the orings and bolt spring. That way you will be starting with a fresh gun.

[marked74]

Cool! It's a sweet looking complete marker - I dig it. Not sold on the blue, mostly becuase it's not the best paintjob in the world. Really I want it to be up and running soon.

Here are the pics:

left side



right side



valve



complete

[michbich]

Did you air it up to see if it holds air? The paint actualy looks better than what i imagined. I would leave the paint the way it is. Drop in a couple drops of oil in the ASA and air it up, let us know if it's leaking.

[snoopay700]

I like the blue RT, it looks nice, sort of serene. Also, i hate you for having such a low number, although with the deal i got i can't complain. I actually had that same drop on it for a while too. Classic RTs are awesome as hell, i love em for some reason. If you ever go selling that valve or the gun, let me know first, just so i can have a piece of history (well with a lower serial number).

[marked74]

Did you air it up to see if it holds air? The paint actualy looks better than what i imagined. I would leave the paint the way it is. Drop in a couple drops of oil in the ASA and air it up, let us know if it's leaking.

When I first got it I had it in the shop to get it gassed up and running, and get the bottle hydroed. After getting it running and replacing o-rings, the shop put one of their HPA bottles on it and dry fired it for me. It was good to go then. After FINALLY getting my bottle back (2 months I think it took?) I had them fill it, and as soon as I got home and connected it, the o-ring on the bottle let go. A friend of mine who works on guns for fun was supposed to put another on for me, and that didn't happen. So I was off to the shop Monday - and as it turns out they're closed Mon-Tues... Tonight the bottle gets a new ring, filled, and this thing gets test fired with actual paint. I'll post back with results. It's been a long road...

Other than the chip and a couple scratches, the blue is ok. It looks nicer up close under light, there's a good sparkle to it. Looks like it's flat black underneath though which I prefer. Or perhaps that was a primer coat... We'll see...

snoopay - don't hate me, my friend gave this to me with the bottle since, at the time, the gun was not working, had no barrel, the bottle was out of hydro, AND he wasn't playing more than once a year so he figured I'd get more use out of it. This group I hooked up with plays every other Sunday from now until the ground is frozen. Can't WAIT to get this thing going! BTW, the group saw it already and made fun of me - "What the hell is that thing? Why is it so heavy?". Can't wait to go full auto and surprise the hell out of em

[trevorjk]

i must say now! and please listen!

either have a fast hopper on there (halo or faster) or shoot slow!

reason being is you do not have a level 10 bolt. and with the hard faced level 7 bolt, you WILL chop paint unless you know for a fact the paint is in the breech every time.

[marked74]

i must say now! and please listen!

either have a fast hopper on there (halo or faster) or shoot slow!

reason being is you do not have a level 10 bolt. and with the hard faced level 7 bolt, you WILL chop paint unless you know for a fact the paint is in the breech every time.

OK will do. Right now I have one of the 'french tickler' hoppers - the agitator variety. Definitely not as fast as a HALO. I'll be upgrading that and the bolt at some point in the future... Would a Warp do it for me? Those are so cool...

edit - thanks for the tip btw, and for letting me know which bolt that is!

[trevorjk]

not a problem, with a level 10, you can run any mag off of any hopper. i have been using a standard gravity feed on my mag so that i wouldn't have to worry about batteries. and since i have installed the level 10 i have had no breaks.

definetly the best 60-80 you will EVER spend in the mag world

[michbich]

OK will do. Right now I have one of the 'french tickler' hoppers - the agitator variety. Definitely not as fast as a HALO. I'll be upgrading that and the bolt at some point in the future... Would a Warp do it for me? Those are so cool...

edit - thanks for the tip btw, and for letting me know which bolt that is!

Although a warp would reduce the amount of chop compared to the agitated hopper, i would still recomend the lvlx. No hopper or loading system can garantee you paint in the breach everytime you pull the trigger.

[marked74]

Cool thanks for the tips! I'm on it.

[PhoenixWolf]

Ooh, damn nice RT! That thing looks gorgeous. A very, very early RT, too.