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  • Chikahiro
    Registered User
    • Apr 2015
    • 40

    #1

    Just got this: what do I have?

    Hello!

    Long story short, a friend/coworker of mine bought a storage unit, and there was a Automat in there. After hitting up MCarter Brown, I got enough info to tell what she had, what it was worth(-ish), and lamented I couldn't offer her a fair price. She asked how much would I offer, and I said $40. She said "$50, but that'll be for all the paintball stuff" (Automap, an older Spider Victor, grav hopper, and a Ricochet feeder).

    Sold!

    So, here is what I've got:


    There's a number on the sides: CF11247. I'm under the impression this isn't stock, but I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out what parts I might need to get, where I can get manuals, resources, etc., and get ideas of what I can do with this thing for the next time I play paintball (figure I'll let my nieces use my Spider MR100 and GOG eNMey).

    I'm very much a noob here!
  • going_home
    Hebrews 13:8

    • Dec 2004
    • 8343

    #2
    Just put oil in the asa, screw in the tank, and play !


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    • notoriousMAG
      Registered User
      • Aug 2002
      • 66

      #3
      Get some air in your tank and check if the gun leaks(after you've oiled it of course). Worst case you will need a $20 oring kit.

      The classic automag valve will run on co2 but high pressure air(HPA) is highly recommended. Save the co2 tank for the spider.

      Search youtube for "Tom Kaye" for everything you need to know about the classic valve.

      Nice score on good ole 'mag...and welcome to the forums!
      Last edited by notoriousMAG; 04-06-2015, 08:26 PM.

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      • Cyco-Dude

        #4
        you have an automag with an air america expansion chamber and a j & j hard chrome brass barrel. here is the manual and here is an exploded diagram of the valve. you can get an automag parts kit directly from airgun designs, tunamart (just pm tunaman here), ans gear, ebay occasionally, etc.

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        • Chikahiro
          Registered User
          • Apr 2015
          • 40

          #5
          I'll be going to HPA, as our field has free HPA refills when you play (covered by field/rental fees, and the fact people with air shoot more paint ). I do have half a mind to see if I can make this sorta stock-class with a tube feed, since as much as I'd like a mag-fed, they're out of the budget right now.

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          • Cyco-Dude

            #6
            that would be easy, just go here and buy one of mad custom's feed tube adapters. you just put an elbow on your feedneck, and then put the adapter in the elbow. it will let you use 10-round tubes to feed paint. grab some ronin stock class bracelets and some 10-round tubes and you'll be all set on the cheap!

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            • Tunaman
              Specialized AGD Tech

              • Dec 2000
              • 8643

              #7
              Originally posted by Cyco-Dude View Post
              you have an automag with an air america expansion chamber and a j & j hard chrome brass barrel. here is the manual and here is an exploded diagram of the valve. you can get an automag parts kit directly from airgun designs, tunamart (just pm tunaman here), ans gear, ebay occasionally, etc.
              Actually it's a Smart Parts Whispering Death expansion chamber. One of the best ever made for co2.
              Email me for low prices on ALL AGD Products and more. [email protected]
              Tunamart

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              • ScottyBeans
                Mags, tho...

                • Mar 2013
                • 334

                #8
                It says on there it's by Smart Parts and Air America, so maybe both?

                In any case well worth the $50. Nice find!

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                • Tunaman
                  Specialized AGD Tech

                  • Dec 2000
                  • 8643

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ScottyBeans View Post
                  It says on there it's by Smart Parts and Air America, so maybe both?

                  In any case well worth the $50. Nice find!
                  Yes. I stand corrected!
                  Email me for low prices on ALL AGD Products and more. [email protected]
                  Tunamart

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                  • athomas
                    Of course it works-its AGD
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8039

                    #10
                    Smart Parts used to market their own custom setups using other companies parts. I used to remember staring at the magazine ads for these Smart Parts mags. They were the best setups on the market at that time. Based on the serial number, I'd say this is a 1993 vintage mag.
                    Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                    • BigEvil
                      www.BigEvilOnline.com

                      • Feb 2005
                      • 9333

                      #11
                      NICE old school set up. I call dibs!!!!

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                      • going_home
                        Hebrews 13:8

                        • Dec 2004
                        • 8343

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigEvil View Post
                        NICE old school set up. I call dibs!!!!
                        Dibs on what ?




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                        • Chikahiro
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 40

                          #13
                          Well, the bit from the marker to the CO2 expansion thing was leaking air. The o-rings around the barrel were in horrible shape as well - age plus I'm assuming heat must have gotten to them. Should be fun to work on

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                          • Cyco-Dude

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ScottyBeans View Post
                            It says on there it's by Smart Parts and Air America, so maybe both?

                            In any case well worth the $50. Nice find!
                            Originally posted by Tunaman View Post
                            Yes. I stand corrected!
                            well, the expansion chamber says whispering death by air america. the part that says smart parts and air america is the "smart remote". that looks to be a separate asa attached to another expansion chamber for a remote-mounted tank. looks to have everything there; asa to nipple adapter with in-line filter, remote line with slide check...that thing came straight outta the 90's in a time machine, haha!

                            interesting how the vasa has been milled down to accommodate the whispering death expansion chamber. i've seen some milled like that before and always wondered why they were like that...i guess i know now!

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                            • Chikahiro
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 40

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cyco-Dude View Post
                              well, the expansion chamber says whispering death by air america. the part that says smart parts and air america is the "smart remote". that looks to be a separate asa attached to another expansion chamber for a remote-mounted tank. looks to have everything there; asa to nipple adapter with in-line filter, remote line with slide check...that thing came straight outta the 90's in a time machine, haha!

                              interesting how the vasa has been milled down to accommodate the whispering death expansion chamber. i've seen some milled like that before and always wondered why they were like that...i guess i know now!
                              Do I need that at all? Not really, right? I plan to use HPA unless I try to make a stock-class configuration, in which case it'd be 12-grams...

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