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  • Systemx
    Registered User
    • Jun 2016
    • 35

    #1

    Fitting an intelliframe

    Hi all I'm new to the forum and Automags in general. I recently purchased an eclipse splash mag which has an Xvalve and level 10 bolt fitted but it's definitely not working correctly. Spares for Mags in general in the U.K. Are seemingly a little more difficult to come by however I am aware that there is still a good supply stateside 👍

    I now want to get her up and running and while I'm very pleased with the overall condition it does appear to have a few issues,

    1) It leaked down the barrel when I first air'd it up and I finally pinned this down to a bad o ring between the power tube and the valve body. (Sorted I think)

    2) with the old trigger frame fitted to the marker. It will fire but the bolt seems to stick and while it does shoot abeilt slowly it will not R/T and seems to chuff between shots.

    3) I have now purchased an intelliframe and fitted it but now the marker won't shoot at all, which is now my main issue.

    I have looked over the existing threads and found a lot about not adjusting the trigger rod (I'm sorry if that's the wrong terminology) but given that it shoots with the standard trigger frame installed I feel that the on/off valve is working correctly and as far as I can see it's almost like the sear is not actually activating the on/off valve at all.

    The sear rod upon air up is pushed forward into the trigger as is normal? But it is stiff, stiffer than it is when the standard trigger frame (plastic type with single grip screw that has had the trigger guard cut to accommodate the double trigger)

    The sear in the marker has UL stamped on it and as far as I can tell it's compatible with the intelliframe.

    I suspect that I need to buy a spacer kit for the bolt to address the 'chuffing' issue but I am stumped with regards to the no shooting issue with the intelliframe.

    Any help you guys can offer will be greatfully received.
    Last edited by Systemx; 09-19-2016, 08:24 AM.
  • captian pinky
    Bearded Works

    • Oct 2004
    • 2755

    #2
    adjust the sear rod so that when aired up it has a credit card thickness gap between the back of the trigger and the front of the sear rod.

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    • Laku
      Registered User

      • Nov 2012
      • 940

      #3
      Originally posted by captian pinky View Post
      adjust the sear rod so that when aired up it has a credit card thickness gap between the back of the trigger and the front of the sear rod, when trigger is resting against safety .

      Fixed it little.

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      • Systemx
        Registered User
        • Jun 2016
        • 35

        #4
        Hi guys thanks for the replies, The intelliframe I have does not have a saftey pin in it unfortunately but I shall try this anyway. Please bear with me I don't wish to sound stupid but I guess I'm winding the rod 'in' as at the moment when I air it up the rod is firmly pressed against the trigger

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        • captian pinky
          Bearded Works

          • Oct 2004
          • 2755

          #5
          depends if it is already touching the trigger or is to far away from the trigger.

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          • Laku
            Registered User

            • Nov 2012
            • 940

            #6
            Fitting an intelliframe

            If you're unsure just take pictures. We'll help the best we can.

            Bolt stick sounds like your lvl 10 carrier is too tight. So you'll probably need to tune it. Here's direct link on Athomases post on how to do that. http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...97#post2828797

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            • Systemx
              Registered User
              • Jun 2016
              • 35

              #7
              At the moment it's touching the trigger, pushing in to it

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              • Systemx
                Registered User
                • Jun 2016
                • 35

                #8
                That's great thank you so much, can I post pics on here?

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                • Laku
                  Registered User

                  • Nov 2012
                  • 940

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Systemx View Post
                  At the moment it's touching the trigger, pushing in to it
                  Ok. That's too far. I assume the rail bushin is in its place?

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                  • Systemx
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 35

                    #10
                    Yes I believe so if that's the brass bush that goes through the rail and the field screw goes through? I'll check it and make sure it's in place properly

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                    • Laku
                      Registered User

                      • Nov 2012
                      • 940

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Systemx View Post
                      Yes I believe so if that's the brass bush that goes through the rail and the field screw goes through? I'll check it and make sure it's in place properly
                      That's the one.

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                      • Systemx
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 35

                        #12
                        Ok success with the non shooting issues I have adjusted the rod and that seems to have sorted it, thanks guys!! I assume that there should be a little slack before the trigger touches the sear rod then?

                        It's still chuffing and I can't get a very good rate of fire 🔥 so I will need to get a spacer kit to sort that out I guess?
                        Last edited by Systemx; 09-19-2016, 09:39 AM.

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                        • Laku
                          Registered User

                          • Nov 2012
                          • 940

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Systemx View Post
                          Ok success with the non shooting issues I have adjusted the rod and that seems to have sorted it, thanks guys!! I assume that there should be a little slack before the trigger touches the sear rod then?

                          Yes, about credit card thickness.

                          Originally posted by Systemx View Post
                          It's still chuffing and I can't get a very good rate of fire �� so I will need to get a spacer kit to sort that out I guess?
                          What you need are called lvl-10 carriers. Tuna can help you on those (Tunamart link on top, use the email for ordering)

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                          • Systemx
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 35

                            #14
                            Thanks Laku, I really appreciate your help today I shall look into the level 10 carriers and get them ordered up hopefully get it running properly soon as there is an 'old school' marker game at my local site on the cards I have heard.

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                            • Laku
                              Registered User

                              • Nov 2012
                              • 940

                              #15
                              Oh and the obvious (in case you already haven't) 2-3 drops of oil in the Asa and cycle the gun about 20 shots without the barrel. That'll get the oil where it's needed.

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