** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

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  • xXhAppyAznXx
    Ken, Eagle Scout
    • Mar 2003
    • 2473

    #811
    i feel like a newbie again
    alright i have tuned a lvl 10 twice already, and they came out nicely

    today 8 months after the last time i ever tuned a lvl 10 i had LOTS of trouble
    my 2 friends who just got their lvl 10s came over and asked me to tune it, they bring over a scuba and everything
    i sit down for like 1 frustrating hour trying to tune the first RT valve, and no matter what it wont stop at the target, it crunchs everything in its path

    this is my exact prodcedure, please do correct me if im wrong, i didnt have directions, i went w/ my 8 month old memory
    -carrier 2, 2 shims, mid spring, oiled oring
    -shot 2-300 shots
    -no leaks, went down tighter carrier
    -1.5 carrier, still chopping and crunching
    -went through the same steps till reached carrier 0
    -w/ carrier 0 it was still crunching on everything

    what am i doing wrong...?


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    • GA Devil
      Devil's Den Paintball
      • Aug 2003
      • 1455

      #812
      if its not leaking dont go down a carrier yet. Try using the small spring and check velocity...my bet is your way too high.


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      • xXhAppyAznXx
        Ken, Eagle Scout
        • Mar 2003
        • 2473

        #813
        i did a chrono guess by shooting a ball
        if its not leaking, but it chops, i should still go down a carrier, the tighter the carrier the less likely it would chop, but in this case, seems to make no difference

        CRY OUT FOR DONATIONS : can someone please send me some free lvl 10 orings (the ones that need to be broken in) please please thanks!


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        • Havoc_online
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          • Feb 2002
          • 2851

          #814
          tighter carriers make the bolt hit harder not softer, use the biggest one that doesnt leak people!
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          • xXhAppyAznXx
            Ken, Eagle Scout
            • Mar 2003
            • 2473

            #815
            theres that newbie feeling again

            haha thanks man! god i feel like a dumbass


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            • Sniper king
              And boom goes the dynamite
              • Aug 2003
              • 3322

              #816
              Ya i bought my LVL10 bout a month ago and i've been trying to tune it and i've gone down to the carrer and get enough shims till it will stop leaking. but now i chop balls i dunno whats wrong
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              • Enemy
                aKa PROZAC
                • Aug 2003
                • 1245

                #817
                hey everyone ive already posted my problem on here and got no reply so if someone could help me it was the last post on pg 27 thanks
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                • Plazmic
                  I'm all Zen-ish today
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 473

                  #818
                  Okay, I thought I had this level 10 working, but when I pull the trigger all I get is a chuff. I've tried different springs and it doesn't seem to make a difference. With the weakest spring the bolt moves but it won't fire a ball 10 feet. I followed the instructions exactly and have tried with 0 - 5 shims with no difference. If I put my old bolt back on it fires fine.

                  Can anyone give me an idea what's going on here?
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                  • BD_Paintball
                    UW-Whitewater Paintball
                    • May 2003
                    • 2268

                    #819
                    go to a bigger carrier. and start with no shims then work up. but first go to a bigger carrier.
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                    • Plazmic
                      I'm all Zen-ish today
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 473

                      #820
                      I went to a bigger carrier and it leaked like crazy down the barrel so I went back to the one I had. I'm an a 2.5, now. The 3 doesn't work. I tried it with no shims and worked my way up to 5 and none of them made any difference.
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                      • ChucktheMAGician
                        Back at it
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 1855

                        #821
                        Plazmic, now that you have the right carrier have you tried the middle spring? I'd try that and/or turning up your velocity.
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                        • Plazmic
                          I'm all Zen-ish today
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 473

                          #822
                          Yeah, I've tried all three springs and the one from my old bolt, too. I get the same results from all three. I really thought it was my regulator or valve, so I put my old bolt on to test it. The old bolt worked great! All I can think is that, since the springs all do the same thing, it bust be a carrier issue.

                          I even put on a different trigger frame to see if that made a difference! It didn't.

                          I think I'm going to take the whole thing apart and start from scratch, making sure I do every little thing exactly right.
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                          • Plazmic
                            I'm all Zen-ish today
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 473

                            #823
                            Anyone got any words of encouragement? I'm getting really frustrated here.
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                            • Plazmic
                              I'm all Zen-ish today
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 473

                              #824
                              Okay, I pulled everything apart and started over. I put a different o-ring in the 2 carrier this time. I'm at two shims and the weakest spring. It's firing consistantly, now, but I can't go up a spring. If I use any other spring it won't fire. I haven't chrono-ed it, yet, but if it comes out at 250 or something, how will I get my speeds back up if I can't go to another spring?
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                              • ChucktheMAGician
                                Back at it
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 1855

                                #825
                                Originally posted by Plazmic
                                I haven't chrono-ed it, yet, but if it comes out at 250 or something, how will I get my speeds back up if I can't go to another spring?
                                Is it close to venting out the back now? If not you will probably be fine.
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