** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[Rift]

i would up the velocity its normal to do so with the lvl 10 your input pressure is fine tho.

[rtmagger]

yeah but if i up the velocity then i won't be able to play at the field because the limit is 280 is their any way i can adjust the sear that would have any affect (like moving is closer or farther away from the trigger)

[Rift]

no dont touch the sear. when you chrono it now are you sure its at 270 or was this before you added the lvl 10 that it was shooting 270?

[rtmagger]

i have used it several times since installing the lvl. 10 and the velocity is at 270

[painter1009]

the squishy black part came off of my bolt what do i do?!

[slade]

the squishy black part came off of my bolt what do i do?!

superglue is your friend

if its mangled, replace it.

[brain.68]

hey i have nothing but problems with my mag the day i got it and im going to have to send it in the 2nd time in three months do u know where i can file a complaint or if there is a return policy on these markers

[brain.68]

ohhh yeah pm me if u know the answers to my problems

[Battlewear]

Hey Guys

Well, I finally got my Level 10! WOOOHOOO!

Any ways, I have been working on it on and off for the last couple of days..

I am running a minimag with a Standard valve, body and such.
I currently have the #1 Carrier in it and using the middle spring and have 2 shims.

I have a slight leak down the barrel of the marker. When I put slight pressure on the trigger it stops.

I have tried removing 1 shim and it got worse. I tried adding a shim and it seemed to get a slight bit better so I added a 2nd shim (up to 4 now) and it is about the same.. 5 made it worse LOL..

So of course I read a large portion of this thread (ok, I admit it, I didnt read the whole thing! Ugg I dont have years! LOL).. Any ways, the information that I seemed to pull was go back to 2 shims and down a 1/2 carrier size.. Does this sound right?

Ok, lets also see if I understand things correctly.

The Carrier size is the inner diameter of the carrier for the shaft of the bolt.
The spring controls the strength at which it moves on forward when impacting the ball, but also has an effect on the high/low of the FPS (feet per second).

What in the world does the shim do? If I understand it, it basically adds or subtracks the time frame at which it goes into stage 2, correct? The more shims the longer it takes (there by giving it a longer chance to bounce back).

Suggestions? Thoughts? Comments ?

[player4]

Is the lv-10 dvd/cd worth purchasing?

I do not have one obviously.

[slade]

Ok, lets also see if I understand things correctly.

The Carrier size is the inner diameter of the carrier for the shaft of the bolt.
The spring controls the strength at which it moves on forward when impacting the ball, but also has an effect on the high/low of the FPS (feet per second).

What in the world does the shim do? If I understand it, it basically adds or subtracks the time frame at which it goes into stage 2, correct? The more shims the longer it takes (there by giving it a longer chance to bounce back).

Suggestions? Thoughts? Comments ?

the spring does control the pressure the bolt exerts, the heavier/longer the spring the less pressure. it does not effect the FPS, but with a longer spring you need to turn up the velocity to overcome the springs pressure, and therefore you must have a higher pressure (and thus velocity) with a longer spring.
the shims alter how far the bolt has to move before air will vent if there is a ball halfway in the chamber. the more shims there are, the sooner the air will vent, and thus the lower the liklihood of chopping. correct me if i am wrong on this.

and player4, i think you can find the info that is on the cd online. if not, i can copy it, zip it, and e-mail it to you (as long as agd is okay with that)

[Battlewear]

Ok, new problems

hey Guys

Ok, some new problems here

I am running a Minimag with a LX..

Ok here are the steps I have done

1st Step - #2 Carrier, 2 shims, Middle spring
Results - Major leaking down the barrel

2nd - 1.5 carrier, 2 shims, middle spring
Results - leaking down the barrel, not as bad

3rd - 1 carrier, 2 shims, middle spring
Results - Slight leaking down the barrel, when trigger is pressed it stops.

4th - 1 carrier, 1 shim, middle spring
Results - MORE leaking down the barrel, when trigger is pressed it stops.

5th - 1 carrier, 3 shims, middle spring
Results - very VERY little leaking down the barrel, when trigger is pressed it stops.

6th - 1 carrier, 4 shims, middle spring
Results - Exactly the same as 5th.

At this point I thought I would go down a 1/2 size in the carrier and back to 2 shims..

7th - .5 carrier, 2 shims, middle spring
Results - NO LEAKING YEAH! Oh wait, now it will only half cycle.. I can get it to fire once in a while but not all the time (1 out of 30 to 50 shots, more often the faster I fire).

8th, 9th, 10th and 11th, same as 7th except a change in number of shims - 0, 1, 3 or 4 shims..
Results - No change from 7th.

My input pressure from my HPA is at 1000 PSI. I have attempted to turn up the speed (which is almost compltely in) but I start to get leaking out the back ( I am going to be buying a new Hight Pressue Regulator Piston)

So, am I just at the point of a regulator piston change or is there something else I am missing?

[BlackVCG]

Battlewear-

Ditch all of the shims.

Go to the gold spring and use that.

Use the largest carrier that doesn't leak using the SAME o-ring. Pull out the o-ring from the carrier each time and put it in the new carrier you install to test.

[Battlewear]

Battlewear-

Ditch all of the shims.

Go to the gold spring and use that.

Use the largest carrier that doesn't leak using the SAME o-ring. Pull out the o-ring from the carrier each time and put it in the new carrier you install to test.

Hey BlackVCG

Ok, as follows

12 - Went to #1 carrier, no shims and gold spring (shortest of the 3 pack)
Results - Leaking down the barrel

13 - Went back to .5 carrier, no shims and gold spring
Results - Marker fires now, getting the slight leaking down the barrel but the anti chop only seems to be there in a minor amount now.. At this point I am not sure about sticking my finger in the breach any more LOL I stuck my squeege in breach (down the barrel) and at any thing more then a 1/4 movement of the bolt it would almost fire my squeege out of my hand..

Should I look at adding a couple of shims to delay stage 2 of the firing?

I personally would like to run the middle or longer to get a little softer responce to the ball, is this possible? I feel that at present I am still going to be getting chops with the gold spring.

[Hornet2099]

Need some help guys

Ok here's the lowdown. No paint through my gun only dryfired, with a logic vert frame. When I first installed the frame the gun ripped, I could sweet spot like no other. But eh bolt would get stuck sometimes. Went to a smaller carrier and the bolt stop getting stuck but i could not find the sweet spot. Also if i put the red or silver main springs on the gun, it's extremely hard to sweet spot if at all. I have been using 5 or 6 shims in my ULT trigger.

I was wondering who has some good setups for the ult to where i can sweetspot and have the anti chop feature still be effective.

Thanks alot