** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[Rift]

that should slide off remove the fomie or you can try withouth removing it and you should be able to stick something think down there to push it out

[rjvemt1]

so what sthe general concensus; hyperframe or lvl 10 but not both?

[jamescell]

I tried that, this puppy is really stick though

[Munky Se7en]

Ok i have a new Custom ULE mag which i cant get the bolt to reset all the way. It doesnt stick in the forward positin all the way it resets almost all the way back to where it should be but is like a tiny bit befre totally resetting. All i have to do is push it slightly back and *click* it barely moves and its reset.

Heres my set up smallest carrier and no shims. From what i know this should be the best set up to break the carrier o ring in and etc. I have installed a level 10 bolt on my other mag which has the is just a level 7 valve. I dunno if its the x valve that makes it tougher to break in or what. Oh yeah i have the ULT installed as well with either 5 or 6 shims. The help with this would be greatly appreciated because im pretty stumped here on what it could be.

[Suspect John]

Hello, what do you guys think of 2.5 carrier, 2 shims and small spring....shoots pretty damn nice, but how can i tell if it will chop. I tested using a squeegee. If the pressure is low I get a barrel leak, when I crank up on it, its fine.

[teamdeadeye]

Ok, we have a problom. I got my lv X today for christmas. Me and my dad were installing it and we have tried every oring carrier but none fit "snug." All of them slide on and slide on with ease. When shot with every carrier the bolt vents i guess because alot of air rushes out and the bolt will not fire. The air is only stopped when i hold down the trigger. The gun fires fine with the lv 7 but cant get the lv X to install.

PLEASE HELP

SEAN

[68bird]

help

ok i got my lvl 10 and it works but it dosent work all the time. im using the smallest spacer but some times it still chops its not a major problem but it wont chop then the next ball will the oring should be broken in by now i played all day?

[NewMagMan21]

I got a Lvl 10 kit for my mag about 2 months ago. I've played about 3-4 games with it and have been noticing some air effieceny problems . The problem is that whenever my tank's psi drops to about 1000 the gun will not shoot. It almost seems like at that pressure the gun short pulls itself....er whatever. Ummm when you pull the trigger all the way back the bolt wont go all the way forward... ( I dont know how to explain any better) anyway before I installed the Lvl 10 the gun could fire until about 200 psi (not far of course but still). If anyone has any clue of what Im talking about try to help please

[Carbon Blue]

ok i got my lvl 10 and it works but it dosent work all the time. im using the smallest spacer but some times it still chops its not a major problem but it wont chop then the next ball will the oring should be broken in by now i played all day?

when you say smallest spacer you do mean the largest carrier that will not leak correct.

[Carbon Blue]

I got a Lvl 10 kit for my mag about 2 months ago. I've played about 3-4 games with it and have been noticing some air effieceny problems . The problem is that whenever my tank's psi drops to about 1000 the gun will not shoot. It almost seems like at that pressure the gun short pulls itself....er whatever. Ummm when you pull the trigger all the way back the bolt wont go all the way forward... ( I dont know how to explain any better) anyway before I installed the Lvl 10 the gun could fire until about 200 psi (not far of course but still). If anyone has any clue of what Im talking about try to help please

mags need atleast 800psi to run properly and with the use of the lvlX it has been proven that it does need more air to run properly about 50psi or so. I know at about 1000psi my xvalved Lvlx mag shoots fine till about 850-900 then it starts to lose distance etc.

[j.storm]

alrighty folks, i'm trying to get my lvl10 up and running and just have a few quick (and possibly dumb) questions. I'm running a 1.5 carrier...it's the largest that won't leak......and no shims. I also have the longest spring in. The gun fires every time I pull the trigger, and I can stick my finger in the breach and the bolt works....no leaks. So:

It seems that the bolt is still slamming into my finger enough that it would chop paint. If at any time I put pressure on the bolt, it simply won't budge. If I back my finger off a smidge, then it vents, but again, I feel the pressure would chop the ball. Can someone shed a bit of detail on this? I don't use any shims because according to the instruction disc, it seems that those are only used if the bolt sticks forward and doesn't reset. Correct? Should I add some? Why, how many, what am I looking for?

[Carbon Blue]

Not sure if this will work but you could try adding a bit more oil on the lvl10 stem which is inside the bolt, but usually the further your finger is away from the bolt then the harder it will feel, the closer your finger was to the bolt the impact is much less. If you wanna try adding a shim at a time then go for it but only go one at a time. If it starts to leak take a shim out.

[j.storm]

so a bit of oil aside, everything sounds good? Me thinks that I will chrono my Mag here this weekend (hopefully) and maybe do the taped ball test. If there's an issue, i'll come back screaming for help, and most likely crying

[Carbon Blue]

Yes it should work just fine, im running the 2.5 carrier with no shims. I have about 3 tanks of air through my xvalved lvlX mag and it seems as it gets broken in the force of the bolt gets softer. You also might want to try switching out springs to the middle one if that helps on the effect of the lvlX, im using the middle one.

[j.storm]

cool. Thanks for the helpage. update to come when all the testing is done with.