** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

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  • ejm
    Registered User
    • Apr 2004
    • 34

    #991
    Originally posted by REDRT
    After sifting though all the posts I still didn't find the exact help I was looking for. So I bought this LvL 10 bolt for my classic rt. It has the (.5/.316) carrier in it. The o-ring is well broke in now. The next size carrier (1/.318) will have a slight leak. I can do 3 shimes. The 4th will leak. The longest spring with the kit shots at 299fps plus. So I dropped to the middle spring that was supplied with the kit. Now it is shoooting reliably at 280/290fps. Everything is ok, but it still hits with some force. I did the dollar test like in the video and it will shove it right into the barrel pretty hard! So I tried putting a smaller carrier (0/.314)w/ the broke in o-ring in to put more drag on the bolt. I had to turn the velocity nut up a bit to compensate with no luck with the buck test. I've replaced the regulator piston w/the springs, the on/off valve pin and the o-rings in the valve thus far. Now if the field gets some less fragile paint like they say, it will most likely be fine. Before the level 10 a couple hundred breaks out of a case and now under a hundred. Still not the best, but I'm getting there. Any suggestions to improve this situation is appreciated. Thanks
    I have the middle spring in and have the smallest carrier. I have also gone to no shimms and has been alot lighter on paint. i have had no breaks in 2 cases of paint so far. it got lighter on the paint when i went from 2 shims to 0 shims.

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    • kungfuhampster11
      I play stock class?!
      • Apr 2004
      • 90

      #992
      if i were to buy a level 10 for my MiniMag valve could i send it all to agd to tune it for me?
      Life is too short to be miserable.

      AGD>SP
      ICD>SP
      EVERYONE>SP

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      • Plazmic
        I'm all Zen-ish today
        • Oct 2003
        • 473

        #993
        Originally posted by kungfuhampster11
        if i were to buy a level 10 for my MiniMag valve could i send it all to agd to tune it for me?
        I don't know for sure, you should call them and see. If they don't, then contact Tunaman. He'll set you up nice.
        The arrogance of other people annoys me. My own doesn't bother me a bit.

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        • psychobillygoat
          Registered User
          • Feb 2004
          • 269

          #994
          Micro mag leak

          I finally got my x valve in to my micro mag and it's leaking like a mad man down the barrel. I took the X valve out of my classic mag and the carrier shim set up seemd to work just fine. I have tried different springs too - but to no avail. Any Info guys?????
          thanks!
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          • Plazmic
            I'm all Zen-ish today
            • Oct 2003
            • 473

            #995
            Originally posted by psychobillygoat
            I finally got my x valve in to my micro mag and it's leaking like a mad man down the barrel. I took the X valve out of my classic mag and the carrier shim set up seemd to work just fine. I have tried different springs too - but to no avail. Any Info guys?????
            thanks!
            Do you have two x-valves or just the one? I dont quite understand what you've got going on here.
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            • psychobillygoat
              Registered User
              • Feb 2004
              • 269

              #996
              I do have 2 x valves. But I am only concerned with the one. They are identical except the one I am putting on my micromag does not have ULT. The valve came straight out of my classic, which worked fine. I installed it on my micro mag and it imidiately started leaking down the barrel. I tried different shim combos and tried all the springs. I didn't do anything with the carrier because it seemed to be working good on my classic and don't see how it would cause the leak by switching bodies. I thought i remembered a thread which someone suggested a longer on/off pin but I couldn't find the thread.
              "Exactly how big were those 2 beers?"


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              • REDRT
                Mags, Y use anything else
                • Apr 2004
                • 1854

                #997
                Originally posted by ejm
                I have the middle spring in and have the smallest carrier. I have also gone to no shimms and has been alot lighter on paint. i have had no breaks in 2 cases of paint so far. it got lighter on the paint when i went from 2 shims to 0 shims.
                Isn't the shims supposed to vent the air sooner so it is lighter hitting on the ball? What paint were you using? Sever huricain isn't working for me.

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                • slade
                  Carpe Noctem
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 3442

                  #998
                  with a ule body, if the back frame screw is tightened too much, it will cause leaking down the barrel. im not sure if this is also the case with a micromag, but you might want to try loosening the screw to see if that helps.
                  xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                  68/30 PE nitro tank
                  cp unimount
                  halo B

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                  • SanDiegoMag
                    tOO MaNy LaDiEs!
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 183

                    #999
                    I have a go x-valve and there is a MASSIVE leak down the barrel. I have checked everything in the valve like power tube assembley and the on/off. The only thing i can see as the problem is the lvl 10. PLZ HELP!

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                    • Plazmic
                      I'm all Zen-ish today
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 473

                      #1000
                      Originally posted by SanDiegoMag
                      I have a go x-valve and there is a MASSIVE leak down the barrel. I have checked everything in the valve like power tube assembley and the on/off. The only thing i can see as the problem is the lvl 10. PLZ HELP!
                      It sounds like you need to go to a smaller carrier. Have you tried moving your carrier o-ring to the next smaller carrier? What size carrier are you using now?
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                      • mixwell2
                        Searching for Tom Kaye
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 221

                        #1001
                        Originally posted by SanDiegoMag
                        I have a go x-valve and there is a MASSIVE leak down the barrel. I have checked everything in the valve like power tube assembley and the on/off. The only thing i can see as the problem is the lvl 10. PLZ HELP!

                        yeah it sounds like the carrier is to large...are you using a aftermarket frame?
                        who cares how your marker looks...just move fast and shoot straight

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                        • SanDiegoMag
                          tOO MaNy LaDiEs!
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 183

                          #1002
                          I have a ULE body, and I dont know the carrier size because I dont know where to find a carrier in my bolt/valve.

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                          • HurleyHero67
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 94

                            #1003
                            Originally posted by Plazmic
                            I had that same problem. I took a new pencil with a flat, clean eraser, and pushed it down. It was just stuck or something.
                            Ok, I'm littery hitting this thing as hard as I can. It just won't go in.

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                            • HurleyHero67
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 94

                              #1004
                              And a double weird thing is, my LvL 7 power tube tip will fit, but the lvl 10 one wont

                              Another thing, does anyone have a spare backing washer for a LvL10 lieing around? I would get one from AGD but won't it cost me like $3 for shipping..if so just PM me and I'd worship you.
                              Last edited by HurleyHero67; 05-10-2004, 10:52 AM.

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                              • John Wilmoth
                                Registered User
                                • May 2004
                                • 1

                                #1005
                                won't fire

                                Hey Guy's
                                Received my level 10 kit and installed with no problem. Had to also purchase new reg. piston for higher velocity. My problem is that the marker (RT) will stop firing completely after a few hopper's of paint but if I push the bolt assembly up with my thumb the gun fire's again as long as I hold it. I went through all the possible combo's for o-rings and the gun does'nt leak and is well lubed. please help love the mod as long as it works.

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