** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

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    UNITED WE STAND
    • May 2001
    • 1149

    #1021
    Troubles with this

    I have never had any problems installing a lvl x in a mechanical mag. Well now I have a Micro e-mag and just got my new x-valve. after trying to install that and finding that it will not shoot in anything other than manual mode I was a little distressed. Jon from AGD told me to use the stock e-mag on/off pin and that should help.
    Yes and No
    I can still get it to fire in "M" mode but I can only manage every second or third shot in "E" mode. I have run the gambit with different set up's.

    I am at a loss, currently I am 2.5 carrier 2 shims and input of around 900
    No leaks front or rear.
    shoots in "M" mode great, but "E" mode is every other shot or so...

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    • hopesfall123
      Registered User
      • May 2004
      • 1

      #1022
      went to the field for the first time today with my lvl 10 and i was having velocity issues. it wouldnt shoot under 300fps. i was using 1.5 carrier, 3 shims, and the red spring. i switched to the long silver spring and that didn't work either. i had to the short spring that came with the kit to shoot at 280-290 but i chopped 2 balls. any suggestions? i really don't want to use the short spring because it's not as easy on paint as the longer springs. please help! thanks

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      • Sirian
        Registered User
        • May 2004
        • 3

        #1023
        Originally posted by Sirian
        here comes my problem
        i got old automag classic & i get level 10 week ago - i use now shortest spring, 1.5 carrier, and 2 shims - first my gun was leaking from bolt & back .
        I made some changes to piston reg . -gun stop leaking from back - good then i start with cariers - number 1,5 stop leaking from bolt - ok so it should be good so i try chrono on middle spring... 360 fps... i try to change preasure but gun stop shooting . So i changed spring to short one again chrono...330 - i cant go down below it .what can i do ?
        ok i solved this problem - you will not believe what it was - my trigger was just to short to push enought on/off pin . Now i use middle spring & have constant 285 fps.

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        • Plazmic
          I'm all Zen-ish today
          • Oct 2003
          • 473

          #1024
          Wow, that never occured to me! Glad you're working!
          The arrogance of other people annoys me. My own doesn't bother me a bit.

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          • Kevn 419
            Registered User
            • Jan 2004
            • 123

            #1025
            No problem, just question

            what do i need to oil on the level 10? it is working fine and it is perfectly tuned; i just figure it would be a good thing to oil it once in awhile. so what am i supposed to oil?
            RT05821

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            • slade
              Carpe Noctem
              • Apr 2004
              • 3442

              #1026
              i havent been able to get my mag to work with any spring except the shortest one. with the shortest spring it shoots at about 280 fps. if i put in either of the other springs, it wont shoot. if i turn up the velocity (i have to turn it up a lot) the bolt moves forward half way and then leaks. does anyone know what to do about this? im chopping paint now whenever i outshoot my ricochet ak, and am currently deciding between an empire reloader b and a qloader, but i think it would be nice to have the lvl 10 tuned as well. thanks.
              xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
              68/30 PE nitro tank
              cp unimount
              halo B

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              • needaname
                Registered User
                • Mar 2004
                • 18

                #1027
                i have figured out the fps on an rt ule for mine wiht out modifing the shims or anything the long spring shoots at about 320 fps the midle at about 300 and the short under 280 (my filds max fps) the first time i went to the fild after i had worked wiht the silver spring to get it to work i was shooting at about 340fps so this gun can go pridy high in speed. i have used the short spring and only choped 2 out of 6000 rounds.

                thanks for a nother great gun agd

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                • *KOMA*
                  Oldskool Noob
                  • May 2004
                  • 28

                  #1028
                  I just purchased my LX from a local shop {they only had 1 in stock BTW} and it was missing: the Carrier OD O-ring and the Back-up washer. How do I get those replaced w/o having to deal with the shop or having to pay for them {I shouldn't have to}??????
                  "You ski the K-12 dude, and girls will go sterile just looking at you!"

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                  • Plazmic
                    I'm all Zen-ish today
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 473

                    #1029
                    Originally posted by *KOMA*
                    I just purchased my LX from a local shop {they only had 1 in stock BTW} and it was missing: the Carrier OD O-ring and the Back-up washer. How do I get those replaced w/o having to deal with the shop or having to pay for them {I shouldn't have to}??????
                    Call up AGD and tell them what happened. I am sure they will take care of you.
                    Here's a link to their contact page.
                    The arrogance of other people annoys me. My own doesn't bother me a bit.

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                    • jetgirl
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 33

                      #1030
                      RT ULE velocity adjustment problems

                      I can't seem to adjust my velocity at all. I don't want to force it, because everything on my new ULE was assembled way too tight. The techs had to grind off two of my bolts on the shark rail because it was stripped. Straight from the factory it was shooting an average of 250. I'd like to get it to 270. Oh, BTW, the bottom stainless railing was even tighter; I couldn't remove it from the body without considering using a hammer(which I didn't). I can take it to a local airsmith, but wanted to hear what you guys think....

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                      • trevorjk
                        <S>WooLooLoo</S>
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 4324

                        #1031
                        Originally posted by jetgirl
                        I can't seem to adjust my velocity at all. I don't want to force it, because everything on my new ULE was assembled way too tight. The techs had to grind off two of my bolts on the shark rail because it was stripped. Straight from the factory it was shooting an average of 250. I'd like to get it to 270. Oh, BTW, the bottom stainless railing was even tighter; I couldn't remove it from the body without considering using a hammer(which I didn't). I can take it to a local airsmith, but wanted to hear what you guys think....

                        specs of the gun please...

                        when you say ULE mag im thinking xvalve ule body stock rail and iframe with level10 inside... but with the sharkrail i dont beleive its an all ule mag? correct me if im wrong. so please give us some stats on the gun and we can go from there
                        t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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                        • jetgirl
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 33

                          #1032
                          re:ULE adjustment problems

                          Sorry about that- been flooded with more stuff than my brain can handle right now. It's your basic issue RT Pro with ULE body and barrel, ULE trigger kit, standard everything else, to include level 10 and x-valve. Quite normal, nothing really fancy here.

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                          • slade
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3442

                            #1033
                            any help with my problem??
                            xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                            68/30 PE nitro tank
                            cp unimount
                            halo B

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                            • trevorjk
                              <S>WooLooLoo</S>
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 4324

                              #1034
                              Originally posted by slade
                              i havent been able to get my mag to work with any spring except the shortest one. with the shortest spring it shoots at about 280 fps. if i put in either of the other springs, it wont shoot. if i turn up the velocity (i have to turn it up a lot) the bolt moves forward half way and then leaks. does anyone know what to do about this? im chopping paint now whenever i outshoot my ricochet ak, and am currently deciding between an empire reloader b and a qloader, but i think it would be nice to have the lvl 10 tuned as well. thanks.

                              when the bolt sticks forward... does it feal stuck? if so make sure you have the small black oring on the ball detent as your detent may be to hard. if thats not the issue i would say try other carriers try a larger carrier is my guess.




                              Jetgirl

                              do you have a pic of you mag? i know you said typical ule mag but you said sharkrail and thats still confusing me... anyways dont be affraid to crank in the velocity as you can always turn it down. and try putting oil into the asa before firing about 4 or 5 good drops... then dry fire a bit... as it sounds like its brand new it may just need to be broken in. otherwise level 10 issue.

                              do you still have the stock on/off?
                              t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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                              • jetgirl
                                Registered User
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 33

                                #1035
                                For Slade

                                I spoke with Matt from Fragtek, and it turns out all my velocity adjuster needed was muscle. Guess I'm used to babying paintball markers - "old school" habits, perhaps? Thanks for the suggestion,though. It was correct, too.

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