** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[Koosh]

Heh... I'm not sure if you'll get the answers you want...

Output pressure was 850 psi on my preset Crossfire tank.

Velocity looked fine, I played woodsball on my friends land, so no chrono. If I remember right I turned it all the way up, then unscrewed it two entire turns. I didn't have enough time or air to see if unscrewing it more would help...

I bought the gun used, the previous owner didn't give me the level 7 bolt, and he uninstalled the level 10 kit... figured it would be the best for me to install it myself. He says it worked perfect for him... He used the '2' carrier, which is the one that leaked a little bit when I had it.

Cut spring has the cut-end facing the bolt, not the barrel.

I just got to thinking, wouldn't putting in a shorter spring help with the thing? I mean, that way it would have less resistance and it could move faster before venting. Just my idea...

I probably won't be able to try any more things until this sunday at the earliest, I'm kinda of poor and won't be able to afford the paint. DOH!

[Duke Henry]

O.K., I am keeping the rubber bumper on there (never did take it off).

So, I am using the shortest spring, 1.5 carrier, and 2 shims.

Now, as stated before - I can't seem to get the gun to chrony below 300 with the middle spring. (I put about 400 shots through it).

Also, with the shortest spring I still chopped some paint. Now, assuming that the fault is not with the paint (I will pickup some new stuff Wednesday), what are some suggestions for getting my LX up and running sweetly?

Should I try to get it to work with the short spring, or the medium spring, or something else?

Thanks

[LawFox32]

ok well my problem isn't that bad,but its annoying, if I do not shoot my gun btw games then right off the break, I pull the trigger around 3 times and nothing happens and then after that third pull, everything is fine, I have the med. spring, 2 shims and 1.5 carrier, what can I do to get it working all the time

thanx

[BAD007]

Sorry if this has already been posted,
I have been trying about all carriers in my mag but what what happens is that I gas it up it will leak big time then I can hold the trigger down and it will mostly stop and the bolt can be clicked back agin then if I let go of the trigger it does it again. I have no shims in for the fact that I am testing the right carrier.

[MPRoberts0]

CP Small bore and a Level 10

Hi,
I have a mini-mag with a 10" CP .685 barrel that was working fine until I upgraded to the level 10. Now the bolt is sticking inside the small bore barrel. I have 4 other medium barrels and this is the only one that this happens with. I've emailed CP and they haven't returned my email yet. I really love this barrel! What should I do???? Any help would be appreciated.
Marc

[ogre55]

Originally posted by BAD007
Sorry if this has already been posted,
I have been trying about all carriers in my mag but what what happens is that I gas it up it will leak big time then I can hold the trigger down and it will mostly stop and the bolt can be clicked back agin then if I let go of the trigger it does it again. I have no shims in for the fact that I am testing the right carrier.

What kind of gun? Is the leak out of the barrel or out of the back?

Ogre

[bunkerhugger]

Originally posted by LawFox32
ok well my problem isn't that bad,but its annoying, if I do not shoot my gun btw games then right off the break, I pull the trigger around 3 times and nothing happens and then after that third pull, everything is fine, I have the med. spring, 2 shims and 1.5 carrier, what can I do to get it working all the time

thanx

Go to a bigger carrier or super polish the bolt piston. I had exact same problem, polished my piston and everything is great. This seems to be a problem when the carrier is so minutely too tight that going to a bigger carrier causes slight leakage.

[bunkerhugger]

Re: CP Small bore and a Level 10

Originally posted by MPRoberts0
Hi,
I have a mini-mag with a 10" CP .685 barrel that was working fine until I upgraded to the level 10. Now the bolt is sticking inside the small bore barrel. I have 4 other medium barrels and this is the only one that this happens with. I've emailed CP and they haven't returned my email yet. I really love this barrel! What should I do???? Any help would be appreciated.
Marc

Try honing out the barrel slightly, but only the breech part. Then you still have a small bore barrel, but the bolt won't hang up on it anymore.

[BAD007]

I have a classic mag, its comming out of the barrel a lot and does with all carriers. I can put the 7 in and it will work fine though.

[Duke Henry]

Originally posted by BAD007
I have a classic mag, its comming out of the barrel a lot and does with all carriers. I can put the 7 in and it will work fine though.

Have you cranked up your velocity? You will need to do so after installing the LX.

[BAD007]

Yeah I know that but its not going to stop the leak comming out of the barrel.

[Duke Henry]

Do you have an adjustible tank? If so, make sure you are pushing out at least 800 PSI, maybe up to 850 PSI.

[hitech]

Originally posted by BAD007
I have a classic mag, its comming out of the barrel a lot and does with all carriers. I can put the 7 in and it will work fine though.

The carrier(s) are not sealing properly. Make use the black oring on the outside is not damaged and oiled properly. When changing carriers are you removing the small power piston oring and using it (the same one) in the new carrier?

[BAD007]

im using a crossfire preset. I am using different o rings also. I oiled them too. I have tried all that thats why I posted because I was starting to think something is really wrong with this thing. I am going to try that stuff aagain and tinker around with it, thanks for your help guys.

[bunkerhugger]

Originally posted by BAD007
I have a classic mag, its comming out of the barrel a lot and does with all carriers. I can put the 7 in and it will work fine though.

Check the piston on the level 10 bolt. It should only be sticking out of the back of the bolt by a quarter of an inch or so. If that piston isn't seated properly it can back out and will cause leaks like that. Unfortunately it is not a user repairable item. Fortunately AGD will replace it for free. Your best way to check this is to compare your bolt to another level 10 and see if they look identical.