** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

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  • pbzmag
    Registered User
    • Feb 2002
    • 1468

    #586
    Armegeddon - The shims are use to determine when the bolt starts to vent. The more you add, the earlier the bolt vents. Most users has 2 shims.

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    • rmhawk
      DaSnipa
      • May 2003
      • 371

      #587
      Level 10 Bolt
      I have installed my level 10 on my brand new minimag. 1.5 carrier, 2 shims, worked great for 40-60 shots. Then disaster! Massive leak down barrel. Went smaller carrier, less/more shims, changing the o-rings, the whole 9 yards. Nothing, still leaks. Then took out the regulator, pulled out the on/off valve, oiled, put back together. No leak. Fired 20-30 shots and guess what, disaster. Barrel leak, again. What am i doing wrong? When i press on the trigger slightly, the leak stops. Please Help!!!

      oh ya, when i went down in carriers (1.0 & .5), it caused my tank (compressed air) to be almost impossible to screw on??


      UPDATE: After many hours, i finally got it to work, except one small thing. After i fire 50-100 shots, i get a small leak out the barrel. All i have to do is A) press lightly on the trigger or B) fire one shot and it stops. Then it does it another 50-100 shots down the road. Is this worth fixing or let it go??Please advise. Thank you
      Last edited by rmhawk; 05-13-2003, 06:48 PM.

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      • BlackVCG
        Grubby Owner

        • Oct 2000
        • 4956

        #588
        Re: carriers

        Each line represents one full size and if it has dots (there will always be three dots if it has dots) it's a half size. So one ring and 3 dots is a 1.5 carrier. 2 rings and no dots is a 2.0. They increase in half sizes from zero to four. The larger the number, the larger the size of the carrier is and the less tension put on the o-ring. If there's not enough tension, it won't seal and if there's too much, it will be inefficient and inconsistent.

        Run the largest carrier that doesn't leak. Don't use shims unless you have to. If it locks up on the ball and won't reset add one shim at a time until that problem stops.

        Originally posted by kiwi n0ddy
        how do u know what carrier is what?

        i keep reading all these instructions that say go to the next size up or down carrier..
        all i see on my carrier's are dots and lines...

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        • kiwi n0ddy
          Registered User
          • Mar 2003
          • 21

          #589
          at last i finnally know what the rings and dots mean..
          cheers dude..

          my marker doesn't leak or anything.. just wanted to know how to tell the sizes

          thanks
          nods
          Damage Inc NZ

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          • Anonymous Proud Mag Owner
            Registered User
            • May 2003
            • 45

            #590
            I'm sure someone has askd this but...

            I was wondering if some1 could explain to me the differences in the carriers and shims and why they mess up the things they do.
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            • Havoc_online
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              • Feb 2002
              • 2851

              #591
              read two posts above yours.
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              • Anonymous Proud Mag Owner
                Registered User
                • May 2003
                • 45

                #592
                Thanks, I was frustrated and in a hurry.
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                • Anonymous Proud Mag Owner
                  Registered User
                  • May 2003
                  • 45

                  #593
                  venting

                  alright, I"m sure you all have already fixed a problem like this, but I don't have the time to read the whole thread. I installed my lvl 10 on a classic mag and it shoots fine, velocity is a little less consistent than I'd like but the major problem is when I gas it up, it leaks either out the powertube or between the valve and the powertube, I can't tell exactly where, but I'd like to be able to fix it. It's not enough to really be noticed, but I'd like to fix it. when I pull the trigger and hold it it stops and it is greatly reduced with the barrel on. I will still play with it in games, but would like to be able to fix it. I think this is the only carrier I can use, the other ones either vent or are too tight. Thanks for any help.
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                  • rmhawk
                    DaSnipa
                    • May 2003
                    • 371

                    #594
                    how many shims do you have in? Try removing the shims, thats what i did and it hasn't leaked since, but i am no expert. i had the same problem. if you remove the shims and get bolt stick, put in the shims one at a time until the bolt doesn't stick. thats what i was told to do and it worked.

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                    • Anonymous Proud Mag Owner
                      Registered User
                      • May 2003
                      • 45

                      #595
                      alright, 1 shim fixed the initial venting down the barrel, but now when I pull and hold th trigger it vents a little and there is still a little leak in the back somwhere. I was wondering if some1 knew how I could locate it. it could be my hoses, but I don't think so. I think it's just a bad o-ring somewhere.
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                      • ryal999
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 256

                        #596
                        x valve leaking??

                        i just gased up this minimag i bought w/ intelliframe and x valve and it is leaking down the barrel???? the guy i bought it from said it was working fine before he sent it??!! please help need my mag!!!! thanks
                        ryal999

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                        • Strider
                          Thunder Chicken
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 1562

                          #597
                          I appologise, as I suspect it's been said before, but d*mn, this is a big thread!


                          My LX bolt piston has slid down such that it's about twice as long as is should be.

                          My problem is that I can't get it to move either way. I can't remove it (at least by hand) and I can't get it back down where it should be.

                          Suggestions? Methods of removal?

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                          • rmhawk
                            DaSnipa
                            • May 2003
                            • 371

                            #598
                            more problems! i played on saturday, 1.0 carrier, no shims, worked great all day. then i gassed it up today and it leaked down the barrel. now what do i do? what if i go allthe way to the last carrier with no shims and it still leaks down the barrel?? HELP!

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                            • J
                              Light me up
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 303

                              #599
                              Is it the LX or X-Valve or just me?

                              I started a seperate thread with this, but hopefully here it'll get more attention...


                              I got my x-valve a few weeks ago, started with a 1.5 then moved to a 1.0 carrier. Went and played and my bolt kept on sticking, so I took out one of the shims and it worked alright, only sticking about 3 times. So now I've switch to no shims with my 1.0 carrier and sometimes when I pull the trigger is just pushes the ball an inch ahead, much like a short stroked trigger. But it doesn't feel like I'm short stroking. Is it? Or is it something I need to fix with my level 10?

                              If it helps here's my gun:
                              Classic Automag
                              Dye 2x Frame
                              Crossfire 68 stubby
                              CP Barrel kit
                              X-Valve, 1.0 carrier, no shims, cut spring
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                              • nt2004
                                yeah, thats right...
                                • May 2003
                                • 832

                                #600
                                my level 10

                                ok i was looking to see if anyone else in the forum had this problem but i ran out of patience.
                                I bought a level 10 a few days ago and i figured out the 1.5 carrier is the tightest one that doesnt leak( the 2 leaked) and im using the shortest spring and i have my velocity turned up so it should work right? Well when i fire, the gun will fire once or twice and then make the noise that it should make if something obstructs it. I can fire without problems if i only fire once every 15 or 20 seconds. when i watch it through my power feed it appears to fire fine and then the second shot makes it to the powerfeed, stops, and goes back. i have tried turning up the velocity which didnt help. i have tried ever carrier that doesnt leak. i have even tried different amounts of carriers. im thinking about bringing it to get professionally installed and this is my last effort to maybe figure out its problem and fix it myself.
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