** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

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  • emag68
    Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 42

    #856
    i got my lvl 10 in the other day but when i turn the air on it leaks in sidethe gun the other problem is that like sometimes the balls only go like 3 feet out of the barrel it will do that for like 5 shots then it will be fine. sometimes it breaks paint too.

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    • momags!
      Registered User
      • Jan 2002
      • 178

      #857
      I have a hyper framed mini-mag. Lvl 10 installed and problems as follows: It'll gas up with no leaks. After one shot, the bolt sticks foward and leaks heavily down the barrel. I have tried all carriers from 0 to 2 and with each carrier went from 0 to 3 shims. The same result with all. The spring used has been the long and short (the used kit I got didn't include the medium.)

      As far as leaks through the valve, the velocity has to be pretty close to max before it begins to vent so I don't think that this is an issue. All parts are lubed well and carrier o-rings have been inspected and replaced numerous times. As well, I have changed the power tube o-ring several times.

      Any advice? Thanks in advance.
      Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. -Napoleon

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      • momags!
        Registered User
        • Jan 2002
        • 178

        #858
        Nevermind.....sold the mag and level 10. I'm not an engineer. I can't see how this thing can be expected to work in the hands of an average consumer.
        Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. -Napoleon

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        • Plazmic
          I'm all Zen-ish today
          • Oct 2003
          • 473

          #859
          I'm sorry you feel that way. Perhaps you should have picked up some new o-rings from AGD rather than using the old ones. Moot point, now, I guess.

          One other little thing, though. Napoleon is spelled with an a, not an e, and that's not his quote.
          Last edited by Plazmic; 02-23-2004, 02:16 PM.
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          • momags!
            Registered User
            • Jan 2002
            • 178

            #860
            Yes, you're right. I have corrected the spelling and attached the following link for you:



            Wish you were so helpful when I really needed it.
            Last edited by momags!; 02-23-2004, 01:37 PM.
            Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. -Napoleon

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            • momags!
              Registered User
              • Jan 2002
              • 178

              #861
              Also, I had (2) complete O-ring replacement kits at the beginning of this endeavor. Needless to say, ALL o-rings from the barrel nubbins all the way back to the regulator piston were replaced twice.

              I'm not new to mags. I've owned some variation of an AGD marker since the beginning. I simply feel that this is too much to expect me, as a consumer, to endure. And judging from the 30 pages in this thread, I would venture to say that I'm not alone in my frustrations.
              Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. -Napoleon

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              • Plazmic
                I'm all Zen-ish today
                • Oct 2003
                • 473

                #862
                Yeah, I agree this is a difficult upgrade for the average player to perform. Looking back at my last post I think I came off a little harsh. Sorry about that.

                It took me 4 days to get my Lvl 10 working, so I do understand your frustrations. I wish there were a better way, but I guess there's not. I suspect that the level 10 and the classic valve are not as happy a fit as the level 10 and the X-valve. I'll find out in a couple of months when I can finally afford the x-valve.

                Funny on the quote. I had it attributed to Winston Churchill! Maybe he was quoting Napoleon.
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                • halocrazy
                  Just chilln'
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 30

                  #863
                  Thanks!!

                  hey bd thx for th tip it really worked. Haven't been on latley to thank you. It shots fine know and there is no leaking. Thx again
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                  • BD_Paintball
                    UW-Whitewater Paintball
                    • May 2003
                    • 2268

                    #864
                    no prob. if some thing else goes bad just post here b/c i look at this thread alot and other people can help too. glad i could help
                    My Guns: chrome and black pump mag
                    -black 2k sniper 2
                    -32* vision imp with ups, ECS, reloader B
                    -was'd imp w/ i-frame and all ups, warp feed
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                    • ClouD
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 339

                      #865
                      I just installed my lvl 10 bolt in my classic automag, and it leaks a lot, not a small leak but a big one! I have the smallest carrier and tried a lot of other carriers and tried it with shims out and shims in. Help please
                      BTW: it leaks from valve.
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                      • BD_Paintball
                        UW-Whitewater Paintball
                        • May 2003
                        • 2268

                        #866
                        u sure u got the correct carrier in? the smallest is the one with no lines and does not have a dot. if you got the one with like 4 lines thats a big one. chech that and post back here.
                        My Guns: chrome and black pump mag
                        -black 2k sniper 2
                        -32* vision imp with ups, ECS, reloader B
                        -was'd imp w/ i-frame and all ups, warp feed
                        -88/3000 and 48/3000 tanks

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                        • ClouD
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 339

                          #867
                          yup it is the smallest for sure, no holes, and and no grooves in it, the smallest one.

                          BTW: is the level 10 supposed to slide all the way to the end? cus my lvl 7 did, but my lvl 10 doesnt.
                          Last edited by ClouD; 02-24-2004, 08:02 PM.
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                          • BD_Paintball
                            UW-Whitewater Paintball
                            • May 2003
                            • 2268

                            #868
                            is the bold going all the way to the bumper. if it is not then that is your problem.make sure you have it put in correct
                            My Guns: chrome and black pump mag
                            -black 2k sniper 2
                            -32* vision imp with ups, ECS, reloader B
                            -was'd imp w/ i-frame and all ups, warp feed
                            -88/3000 and 48/3000 tanks

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                            • ChucktheMAGician
                              Back at it
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1855

                              #869
                              Make sure the backup washer is in there to. It goes in before the carrier.
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                              • ClouD
                                Registered User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 339

                                #870
                                hey are the parts for the lvl 10 supposed to go according to this picture?



                                OR does the backing washer and carrier go in first.
                                For this i mean like this

                                BOLT| BACKING WASHER | CARRIER | SHIMS |POWER TUBE TIP |*
                                or
                                BOLT| POWER TUBE TIP | SHIMS | CARRIER | BACKING WASHER |

                                *means that the backing washer goes in first, then carrier, etc. same way for the next one*
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