Why is a Mag is better than a Spyder Imagine?

[Recon by Fire]

re; DeeEight's response

Of course the Mag is all around better than the Spyder, but in defense of the Spyders:

Not every Spyder is a piece of semi-reliable entry level marker. I used to own a Spyder AMG and I must say it was rather well performing straight out of the box! High pressure Spyder? Wrong! This thing ran beautifuly at 300 psi straight out of the box and very efficient on air consumption. The stock reg was never more than +/- 7 FPS at the chrono. The AMG would even continue to run with only one o-ring left intact! Not too shabby for a marker that can be bought for under $200 new.

[DeeEight]

Re: re; DeeEight's response

Originally posted by Recon by Fire
Of course the Mag is all around better than the Spyder, but in defense of the Spyders:

Not every Spyder is a piece of semi-reliable entry level marker. I used to own a Spyder AMG and I must say it was rather well performing straight out of the box! High pressure Spyder? Wrong! This thing ran beautifuly at 300 psi straight out of the box and very efficient on air consumption. The stock reg was never more than +/- 7 FPS at the chrono. The AMG would even continue to run with only one o-ring left intact! Not too shabby for a marker that can be bought for under $200 new.

+/- 7fps is not very good. A Palmer Stab would be +/- 1fps.

[kenndogg]

Re: Re: re; DeeEight's response

Originally posted by DeeEight


+/- 7fps is not very good. A Palmer Stab would be +/- 1fps.

thats good for an out of the box Kingman reg. if you have any clue about Kingman regs, you'll know that for the most part they're crap.

[personman]

A picture's worth 1000 words

[Evil1]

That is pretty cool. Isn't that when AGD switched to the carbon fiber frames from the die cast ones?

[jknospe]

It sounds like your friend has just started playing. So far, have there been any problems with his marker? If so, then fix it. Or get it fixed. I don't think changing to an Automag is the answer unless your friend is having constant problems with the marker. Will he be happy with a mechanical trigger? He'll probably want an Emag or Xmag with an electronic trigger. Has he tried any mods or upgrades? How many different markers has he tried? How long has he been playing? Does he really know what he wants? If not, his father maybe right... it's too soon.

My son won his marker at his first game. He was using a rental, when a sponsored team at the game noticed how much fun he was having. They gave him a new Spyder Xtra. He wasn't too impressed with it until we upgraded and did some mods to improve its performance.
My Son's Spyder Xtra
Here is a list of the major improvements:

• 32 Degrees LCD trigger frame
• Trigger mod (shorter pull)
• Micro-honed and polished stock barrel
• Body and breach honed to remove edges
• Palmer Stabilizer (a most for CO2)

I've since offered him to use any one of my other markers (see my sig). I even bought him an Automag, with hopes to upgrade it in the future. But after firing them all a few times, he wants his Spyder back. I gave up and sold it on eBay. He's only been in the game for a year and a half, and not impressed by big price tags or fancy looks. Nor does he understand the difference in the engineering of the markers. On the field, he's more concerned about playing the game rather than the marker.

BTW: you should post this on The Spyder Club and SEA forums. I'm curious what they would say.

[Trina]

I'll admit a Spyder is a great beginner's gun...especially for a child or if you're not sure how long you'll be playing and don't want to invest a lot of money into a gun. When I bought my Spyder AMG LCD about 2 years ago, I spent around $300 for it. I haven't even owned it very long and I'm already tired of it's inconsistency, inaccuracy, and that it's not made as well.

To be quite honest, I'm kinda embarressed shooting it now, as my AO buddies LOVE to make fun of me...hahah!

I shot an XMAG at AO SE and I'm now HOOKED!!! I have never shot such an accurate and comfortable marker! It just was AWESOME!!

So basically I bought one, is my $300 on the Spyder wasted? Not really...it's a good back up gun and it did get me through 2 years only going down just a few times.

I think a gun is a personal preference, so pick the one YOU like

[LoveMyMagMoreThanYou]

You really have to decide how far you want to go with your game and what equipment will take you there. If you want to just have fun in the woods with your friends every once in a while, the Spyder may be good enough. If you want to take your game up to higher levels and have a gun that will keep up with you then you should get the Mag. It's really as simple as that.