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  • warbeak2099
    That is my foot!
    • Jan 2004
    • 4447

    #1

    RTP sear vs Classic?

    Why are so many people switching to RTP sears? I read somewhere that they are superior to AM/MM sears. Is this true? Why would this be? Is my Classic sear not performing as well as an RTP sear?
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  • Tunaman
    Specialized AGD Tech

    • Dec 2000
    • 8643

    #2
    Its the exact same sear, designed a little different with a bushing in the hole. Most of the new rails take the different sear and pin. Same performance level.
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    • player4
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      • Jun 2004
      • 558

      #3
      I'm not sure if this is true..but rogue said the RTP sear had less slop
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      • RogueFactor
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        • Dec 2001
        • 633

        #4
        Originally posted by player4
        I'm not sure if this is true..but rogue said the RTP sear had less slop
        Its true, I said it.

        And the RTP/E-mag sears do have less slop. They had to. They were made for RT & XValves(and electros), and the assumption is that they will be used at higher rates of fire.

        Less slop= less wear. And these days EVERYONE wants their marker to bounce.

        Same performance? Yes, both function the same and are made quality. But, one is better. Its no different than a Classic Valve and XValve. They are both quality, but one is better.

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        • mag/cocker lover
          Element *608*
          • Jul 2003
          • 1295

          #5
          not to steal a thread, but its kinda on topic.

          would anyone know why it appeared as though my rt classic sear had bearings in it?

          when i was packing up my rt to send out, i compared the sear to my rt pro sear, and notices what looked like ribs on the inside of the bushing on the classic sear. i didnt really look at them too closely, but im wondering if these were maybe roller bearings or something.
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          • RogueFactor
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            • Dec 2001
            • 633

            #6
            Originally posted by mag/cocker lover
            would anyone know why it appeared as though my rt classic sear had bearings in it?
            Its not an optical illusion. The Classic RT's had what can be called roller bearings in there.

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            • mag/cocker lover
              Element *608*
              • Jul 2003
              • 1295

              #7
              that was a quick reply

              thanks rogue
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              • Tunaman
                Specialized AGD Tech

                • Dec 2000
                • 8643

                #8
                Actually. they are called needle bearings. And that old RT classic sear also had a carbide insert on the tip of it. The newer RT pros have the bushing, which casues a little less slop.
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                • warbeak2099
                  That is my foot!
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4447

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RogueFactor
                  Its true, I said it.

                  And the RTP/E-mag sears do have less slop. They had to. They were made for RT & XValves(and electros), and the assumption is that they will be used at higher rates of fire.

                  Less slop= less wear. And these days EVERYONE wants their marker to bounce.

                  Same performance? Yes, both function the same and are made quality. But, one is better. Its no different than a Classic Valve and XValve. They are both quality, but one is better.
                  So if I'm looking to make my setup bouncy (which I am) I should ditch my Alhpa rail and am/mm sear and replace them with let's say a Delta rail and RTP sear? I'm getting a 4500psi flatline after christmas and probably some more shims for my ult, is this something else I should put on the list?
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                  • RogueFactor
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                    • Dec 2001
                    • 633

                    #10
                    Originally posted by warbeak2099
                    So if I'm looking to make my setup bouncy (which I am) I should ditch my Alhpa rail and am/mm sear and replace them with let's say a Delta rail and RTP sear? I'm getting a 4500psi flatline after christmas and probably some more shims for my ult, is this something else I should put on the list?
                    Youd be best with getting a no-holes AGD rail.

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                    • warbeak2099
                      That is my foot!
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4447

                      #11
                      No-holes? Oh, you mean one of your milled rails. Sorry Rogue, but I'm loyal to CoolHand. No offense to you. Now, back to my previous question, if I want optimum bounce should I switch to an RTP style rail and sear?
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                      • RogueFactor
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 633

                        #12
                        Originally posted by warbeak2099
                        No-holes? Oh, you mean one of your milled rails. Sorry Rogue, but I'm loyal to CoolHand. No offense to you. Now, back to my previous question, if I want optimum bounce should I switch to an RTP style rail and sear?
                        Bounce has nothing to do with the sear.

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                        • warbeak2099
                          That is my foot!
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 4447

                          #13
                          So then what is the performance difference? Will my mag perform better with an RTP style sear and rail than an am/mm sear and rail?
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                          • RogueFactor
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 633

                            #14
                            Originally posted by warbeak2099
                            So then what is the performance difference? Will my mag perform better with an RTP style sear and rail than an am/mm sear and rail?
                            Your question has already been answered. Go back and read previous posts.

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                            • CoolHand
                              Logic Industries LLC
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3769

                              #15
                              Originally posted by warbeak2099
                              So then what is the performance difference? Will my mag perform better with an RTP style sear and rail than an am/mm sear and rail?
                              You don't need to change the sear to get your marker to bounce.

                              When you have it bouncing, the RTP sear might wear a little slower, but you'd be hard pressed to tell.
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