PTP Micromag Design Concepts

[Engus]

Can anybody re-post the pics of what's being done? Apparently Engus's pictures were deleted from Photobucket...

Thanks!

sorry, I was reorginizing my album, I think thats why the links stopped working Heres ya go, from oldest to most recent Album Link

[Engus]

more drawings

[mpsd]

Thanks!!! Loved them Now the only question is: any way to do one of them in RT leght? That way I would be able to do a Micro with an UMF frame. That would be hot!

The ones I liked most are the last (orange) and the third, which would look good if that part that goes over the valve was a sight rail.

So, are any of those being made? Which are we looking at from being released by PTP in the next months?

Thanks!

[Engus]

Thanks!!! Loved them Now the only question is: any way to do one of them in RT leght? That way I would be able to do a Micro with an UMF frame. That would be hot!

The ones I liked most are the last (orange) and the third, which would look good if that part that goes over the valve was a sight rail.

So, are any of those being made? Which are we looking at from being released by PTP in the next months?

Thanks!

Thank you for the compliments, although RT length kind of defeats the purpose of the micro, but really what you would need is a custom foregrip for one of these that leaves more room for the UMF. also, most of these drawings were while I was just learning to use CADD, and that "sight rail" was just me trying new ideas and shapes

[mpsd]

Thank you for the compliments, although RT length kind of defeats the purpose of the micro, but really what you would need is a custom foregrip for one of these that leaves more room for the UMF. also, most of these drawings were while I was just learning to use CADD, and that "sight rail" was just me trying new ideas and shapes

I like that sight-rail nonetheless :rofl: And I know that I would kinda loose the point of the Micro with a RT lenghted rail but would solve the issue anyways... Maybe if just the bottom part of it was longer and the body itself kept at the original lenght. I don't know... Just a late brainstorming.

[TeamJackal37]

so whats the updated?

[Dend78]

still waiting on anything from PTP looks like they are starting to pick back up, from what i understand this is still not a dead issue they are still putting little bits and pieces of time into it, but they gotta pay the bills first. other than that hasnt been much action

[stircrazzzy]

Would there be some way to have a sort of modular feed neck area? One that would facilitate easy switching between a centerfeed, lf or rf, or for a side feed...kinda like the emag, i dunno, seems like it would be easy enough and be pretty effective.

All I know is that it sucks paying $100+ for an entirely new gun body just so that I can use a different type of feed system..

[matteusz]

Would there be some way to have a sort of modular feed neck area? One that would facilitate easy switching between a centerfeed, lf or rf, or for a side feed...kinda like the emag, i dunno, seems like it would be easy enough and be pretty effective.

All I know is that it sucks paying $100+ for an entirely new gun body just so that I can use a different type of feed system..

This has been asked and basically ignored. There are not enough people that want it. Besided you can just get an adapter for another 25$ and switch to a warp. Do you really need better?

[rabidchihauhau]

It has not been "asked and ignored".

What has been said is that PTP has all kinds of new ideas all the time and that some of those new ideas may find their way into the new body.

Its also been said that PTP is not going to comment on anyone's suggestions because they don't want to be found in the position of having to explain to someone on here that their 'new' idea is something that's been sitting in a PTP filing cabinet for the past 12 years.

[micromag-man]

Anything New?

[MagModderMatt]

Id like a simple but mean looker

I like the look of the original RT banjo bolt bodies, the valve inside the body, with only a small part showing, and have a mac-10 lookin front with holes around the barrel, just make it a bit more boxed off, a curved square.. just look at the old RT bodies, I think somthin goin off that look would be sick, and hasn't been done 4 a while
Flat black color.. and the double angel dentents with the possability of eyes (mill a channel in the body for wires from grip to the dentent. flat sided eye channels (eyes would be a great option, not that I dont like the lvl X but it would save air to use a lvl 7 bolt
Body thats a rounded square with eye channels (both sides) completely vertical. and why not do the feedneck like luke mods, the vertical offset. (off to the side a bit for people who like rails, and it would be vertical feed still, just offset by a very small amount.
this is his site, and an example of the feed style I mean
link=Lukes Vert feed mod (would be good for micromag body)

about half way down the page. just an idea

[GoatBoy]

This wouldn't be a totally removable breach, but merely 3 threaded feed ports. The detente ports would just be threaded discs with a detente in them, located a bit off center.

It might work well with the "boxy" 1st and 2nd gen designs of the Micromag.

OK guys, I'm kind of late to the game as I just recently gained interest in a Micromag body.

This "three threaded feed ports" is hands down the best idea in this thread, period. Kudos, man, seriously. It's simple, and it gets the job done.

As far the detentes... Has anyone considered the fourth position for the detente... that is, on the bottom of the chamber? Make a small detent threaded hole for the detent to come up into the chamber; as long as it clears the grip frame screw, you're good to go. Or some variant of that. Then you don't have to worry about plug discs with detentes.


For the rest of the design:

If you're going to ask for something, ask for something that is worth doing.

I have never been a fan of aesthetic milling garbage, and I never will. In fact it's just plain gaudy. Not only that, but it can jack up the cost for no good reason. How about we have a body that has good functionality, yet isn't as egregious as a Tac-one?

I do agree that sharp edges are kind of bad though, and I would prefer things be rounded, if for no other reason than paint and anno has a tendency to wear off of the edges since they are, in fact, edges.


I think you should go with Engus's simple, ULE inspired body and go with a two angel-threaded feed-port design to give you a warp left or a vertical feed body. If you put the third port for the right feed, then put the detente on the bottom, but I think the onus is on the lefties to prove there are enough of them to justify making the thing more expensive for everyone else. Also, put a sight rail back on top. Any further milling should be done for the purpose of weight savings, if possible.

This would solve a lot of shortcomings that I've been seeing.

1. There is no one body that will let you go from vertical to warp-left feed, aside from the X-mag.
2. There are no sight rails that aren't either too cumbersome (RT Pro, Tac), or scratch the Hell out of your body (all others).
3. In order to use the current warp-left bodies, you have to notch your rails, which is unpleasant. Since we get everything in one package, that bit is solved.

I think if you go with this, you will have a very versatile and functional Automag body. The last hurdle is to not be stupid with aesthetic milling and jack up the costs for no good reason. Gosh, wouldn't that be innovative?!

[DevilMan]

1. There is no one body that will let you go from vertical to warp-left feed, aside from the X-mag.
3. In order to use the current warp-left bodies, you have to notch your rails, which is unpleasant. Since we get everything in one package, that bit is solved.

You've not checked out the DM3's have you???

They came in Left/Right/CenterFeed configurations. And in fact if you are lucky, *I've not been* you can still find the side feed breeches...

DM

[secretweaponevan]

As far the detentes... Has anyone considered the fourth position for the detente... that is, on the bottom of the chamber? Make a small detent threaded hole for the detent to come up into the chamber; as long as it clears the grip frame screw, you're good to go. Or some variant of that. Then you don't have to worry about plug discs with detentes.

OOH, good idea.

Paging Dr. Forrest...