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  • river031403
    Registered User
    • Feb 2011
    • 1080

    #16
    Originally posted by RT Lover View Post
    where can i get some noids and fittings etc, air solider isnt working right... but u r across the pond.... how long is shipping on that

    ty!
    It's working kinda of? I talked to mike yesterday here is a good link
    http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...errerid=144073

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    • RT Lover
      nothing special
      • Nov 2011
      • 789

      #17
      renie r u sure its 1/8th barbs with m3 thread? any certain size/ type of hose and thanks for the links! would i need to use some kind of hose ring to keep the hose from blowing off?

      Originally posted by river031403 View Post
      It's working kinda of? I talked to mike yesterday here is a good link
      http://airsoldier.com/mm5/merchant.m...Store_Code=AOS
      he is just about all sold out on everything...he needs to stock up! thanks for the link
      Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...lover+feedback

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      • Spider-TW
        U R techno-literate!

        • Oct 2006
        • 3554

        #18
        Originally posted by renie View Post
        they work fine straight off a 9v Lucky used the 3 port version on there ion mods there a very reliable noid and have a high cycle rate, I have loads of the 5 port ones just never used them it doesn't matter which way you wire the noid leads.

        if I can help you anyway feel free to ask
        Renie, did you notice RTLover's spec sheet is only 12 or 24 VDC? It doesn't seem to cover the 5 vdc solenoids.

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        • renie
          Registered User

          • Oct 2011
          • 445

          #19
          Originally posted by RT Lover View Post
          renie r u sure its 1/8th barbs with m3 thread? any certain size/ type of hose and thanks for the links! would i need to use some kind of hose ring to keep the hose from blowing off?
          no your only working with 50-60 psi as long as your hose isn't to rubbery they will hold just fine, autococker lpr tubing is the best,

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          • renie
            Registered User

            • Oct 2011
            • 445

            #20
            Originally posted by Spider-TW View Post
            Renie, did you notice RTLover's spec sheet is only 12 or 24 VDC? It doesn't seem to cover the 5 vdc solenoids.
            ah.. no I didn't I presumed it was the same as the ones I have

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            • RT Lover
              nothing special
              • Nov 2011
              • 789

              #21
              Originally posted by Spider-TW View Post
              Renie, did you notice RTLover's spec sheet is only 12 or 24 VDC? It doesn't seem to cover the 5 vdc solenoids.
              Originally posted by renie View Post
              ah.. no I didn't I presumed it was the same as the ones I have
              English guys lol!!! Do I need a different noid or something?
              Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...lover+feedback

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              • Spider-TW
                U R techno-literate!

                • Oct 2006
                • 3554

                #22
                Originally posted by RT Lover View Post
                English guys lol!!! Do I need a different noid or something?
                Your spec sheet covers 6 solenoids, none of which are rated for 5 volts like the ones Renie and others use. You may actually have a 5 volt valve if you were just looking at the 43A model. You can see the 5VDC on the middle left of Renie's label. Check yours or post a pic of the label. You're not on the wrong track, it's just that something like that can cause some performance issues that will get you sooner or later.

                If you look at solenoid coils in general, they like high voltage for the initial pull-in, but they can only take a certain amount of steady current. That means if we are only powering them for about 10 milliseconds out of 50 milliseconds (which is called a 20% duty cycle), we can get away with almost doubling the rated voltage. When you give them lower voltage than they were designed for, they will be slower and weaker.
                Last edited by Spider-TW; 02-25-2014, 01:50 PM.

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                • renie
                  Registered User

                  • Oct 2011
                  • 445

                  #23
                  Originally posted by RT Lover View Post
                  English guys lol!!! Do I need a different noid or something?
                  as Spider-TW said it should be on the label on the noid

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                  • RT Lover
                    nothing special
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 789

                    #24
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                    when i bought it i figured good enough for a shocker/ viking god enough for what i want..... that is the only reason i got this so if i need a different noidl, barbs r just in random holes so i dont lose them lol.... lmk ty guys
                    Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...lover+feedback

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                    • renie
                      Registered User

                      • Oct 2011
                      • 445

                      #25
                      That noid will be fine you msy just have to test the port combination and use a m3 bolt/grub screw to block onefof the ports
                      try the setup I mentioned above

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                      • Spider-TW
                        U R techno-literate!

                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3554

                        #26
                        Originally posted by renie View Post
                        That noid will be fine you msy just have to test the port combination and use a m3 bolt/grub screw to block onefof the ports
                        try the setup I mentioned above
                        When you test it, don't leave 9 volts on it for more than a few seconds at a time. It's rated for 5 volts continuous and 9 should heat it up. Usually the electronics and short pulse limit the power, so if you direct connect it to a battery, use an old weakened 9 volt or a four pack of 1.5 volt batteries.

                        Idk how these act to over-voltage, but the little SMCs get a bit toasty.

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                        • RT Lover
                          nothing special
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 789

                          #27
                          Well the plan is to.use it with a 9volt all.the time? Should I.put a resatior in it or something?
                          Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...lover+feedback

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                          • Spider-TW
                            U R techno-literate!

                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3554

                            #28
                            Originally posted by RT Lover View Post
                            Well the plan is to.use it with a 9volt all.the time? Should I.put a resatior in it or something?
                            It's OK to use a 9 volt for a second at a time. Just don't leave the solenoid on for longer than that without letting it cool first. Normally, if you are shooting 20 bps, the solenoid will only be on for 10 msec at a time.

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                            • RT Lover
                              nothing special
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 789

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Spider-TW View Post
                              It's OK to use a 9 volt for a second at a time. Just don't leave the solenoid on for longer than that without letting it cool first. Normally, if you are shooting 20 bps, the solenoid will only be on for 10 msec at a time.
                              What!? Lol do I need to run a switch?
                              Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...lover+feedback

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                              • Spider-TW
                                U R techno-literate!

                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3554

                                #30
                                Originally posted by RT Lover View Post
                                What!? Lol do I need to run a switch?
                                If you test the solenoid, not connected to a board, don't leave it connected to the battery. A switch is nice, but not necessary for testing.

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