Creating Backspin

[NIghtStalker001]

Dawg I like your way of thinking.So keep trying stuff.What do you think would happen if you had a bolt that released the air pressure from the bottom .Most bolts I see have a even # of holes releasing air evenly to the ball.Know I dont know but maybe you could try creating a bolt at you machine shop that releases the air on the bottom portion of the bolt hopfully putting back spin on the ball.I will make a quick pic and post it so you know what im talking about.

[NIghtStalker001]

I dont know if it worked

[Dawg047]

Yes, that would work. There was actually a company that made a bolt just like that for Angels. I saw it in APG. They also made skull pullpins for Cockers. I like your idea. That would create a greater pressure underneath of the ball making it spin backward. They made it for Angels but they need to make one for the MAG!! I could try to make one but I don't have any stainless steel like the bolt in a mag. I will look in to it though.(Hmmm, a new project to work on .....).Nice idea NightStalker, I LIKE IT.

[NIghtStalker001]

I'm glad I like thinking of better way to help the sport let me know how the projects goes and if you make one and it works let me know I'd love to try it.

[Dawg047]

Perhaps I can find someone selling a really cheap bolt. I could drill the front out of it. I could then drill a piece of alluminum or ss out the same diameter. I could drill three holes in it like you picture then thread it. I could then thread the inside of the bolt that would be drilled out and screw the new bolt face in. It could work.

[NIghtStalker001]

yeah that may work seems a little compicated but everyone got all exited about 2 piece barrels maybe they will freak out with a 2 peice bolt.

[Dawg047]

Really not that complicated but that is the only other way I can think without machining a new bolt which I could do, but it would take me forever. Yeah, people would go nuts over a two piece bolt. There could even be new faces to screw in your bolt to give it that "custom" feel. LOL. I better patent this before Smart Parts find out. JK, I like SP.

[NIghtStalker001]

seriously thats not a bad idea.just the fact that people can have accesorys for there bolt would probably sell.I dont mind spart parts either there in the business to make money if I had a idea I wouldnt want everyone and there mother using it.but that probably belongs on a different thread.

[Dawg047]

Cool ,keep the ideas and information coming. Thanks everyone

[Buff]

The air coming out of the bottom of the boltcan be done with plummers putty and a venturi bolt.......just plug the holes you dont want having air come out.......

its something i did awhile back.......

[Dawg047]

This worked? It created backspin? No puddy came out when you shot? Interesting

[Buff]

I had taken the venturi head out of my bolt (was using a piranha), and plugged it from the inside, so air pressure would only push it harder into the venturi......

I used it with my barrel with the detent in the top.
It sorta worked, except the barrel was small bore........so it broke 1/10 of the balls shot through........about 60-80 percent of the rest flew like they came out of a flatline.

I think a better way to do this would be with porting.
I normally used a JJ ceramic with my piranha, and noticed if the barrel was against a tree, the paint would fly the other direction.
So have a barrel with porting only on the bottom........and alot at that

[Dawg047]

Neat.

[personman]

I am 95% sure that the undertow bolts don't work and are a waste of money. That's why they never caught on.
With the rubber detent thing, that's how the Z-Body works. The detent is in the breech and it uses extra large bore barrels.

[Dawg047]

Oh, wondered how the Z-body work. Thanks. I will experiment with the detent thing instead of the bolt then sice the Undertow ones don't work. Thanks for the info.