Clamping feed on a Vert Feed Micromag

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  • matteusz
    It's not about the gun.
    • Aug 2006
    • 1106

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    Clamping feed on a Vert Feed Micromag

    Anyone successfully done this? I know MANN was thinking of having the force fit feedneck removed or something and having angel threads cut in. Don't know if that got off the ground.
    I was thinking of having the existing feed basically cut up and a band added to make it like a rouge feedneck. Probably a more cost prohibitive project than I would like it to be but any ideas?

    Mat
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  • A-Tach-One
    I'm done!!!!

    • Mar 2005
    • 2204

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    I am concidering trying to replace my dad's stock vert micro neck. It is pressed in like the xmags, but making sure it stays secure is my only worry. There is really only room for 1 set screw to be tapped to hold the modded neck. But should work. As far as cutting the stock one and adding a ring, not sure how it will hold up. I have an xmag that someone did that very thing to and the stock neck began to crack near the base, so I put a ccm in it instead. Goodluck either way.

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    • matteusz
      It's not about the gun.
      • Aug 2006
      • 1106

      #3
      Originally posted by A-Tach-One
      I am concidering trying to replace my dad's stock vert micro neck. It is pressed in like the xmags, but making sure it stays secure is my only worry. There is really only room for 1 set screw to be tapped to hold the modded neck. But should work. As far as cutting the stock one and adding a ring, not sure how it will hold up. I have an xmag that someone did that very thing to and the stock neck began to crack near the base, so I put a ccm in it instead. Goodluck either way.


      Hmm cracking sounds bad. I will have to see if there are any other suggestion. I am thinking maybe I will drill holes and put set screws in but I would rather not make it ugly.

      Anyone else ever try this?
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      • flyingpootang
        Magtechian with X disease

        • Dec 2005
        • 2276

        #4
        If you decide to cut into the stock feedneck you can keep it from cracking by drilling a hole at the end of the cut. Its a proceedure in the aviation industry called drill stopping. Just make shure the radius of the drilled hole is larger than the cuts in the feedneck. When the clamp is tightened or loosened without the drill stops the metal will continue to crack along the cut line.
        The round radius will allow the pieces to flex without straining the metal .

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        • matteusz
          It's not about the gun.
          • Aug 2006
          • 1106

          #5
          Originally posted by flyingpootang
          If you decide to cut into the stock feedneck you can keep it from cracking by drilling a hole at the end of the cut. Its a proceedure in the aviation industry called drill stopping. Just make shure the radius of the drilled hole is larger than the cuts in the feedneck. When the clamp is tightened or loosened without the drill stops the metal will continue to crack along the cut line.
          The round radius will allow the pieces to flex without straining the metal .


          Hey now that sounds like someone who knows what he is talking about. I think I am gonna contact rouge and see if he has done this for anyone. I am also gonna see if mann ever got the angel threads done. Thanks for the replies.
          Mat
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          • A-Tach-One
            I'm done!!!!

            • Mar 2005
            • 2204

            #6
            Originally posted by flyingpootang
            If you decide to cut into the stock feedneck you can keep it from cracking by drilling a hole at the end of the cut. Its a proceedure in the aviation industry called drill stopping. Just make shure the radius of the drilled hole is larger than the cuts in the feedneck. When the clamp is tightened or loosened without the drill stops the metal will continue to crack along the cut line.
            The round radius will allow the pieces to flex without straining the metal .
            Richard, have you done this to any of your stock feeds? How did it hold up and how did it look cosmetically? I will be replaceing the stock neck on my dads with a ccm next week.

            Oh, and mine didn't crack down the cut line. It cracked horizontally inbetween the cuts.

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            • flyingpootang
              Magtechian with X disease

              • Dec 2005
              • 2276

              #7
              Eric, Nope I never cut a pressed in feed. The strain relief or drill stop allows the stress of the cut metal to radiate from one side to the other without continuing down or across the cut lines. Although it will not stop the metal from breaking off if the metal is work hardened by constant/over flexing the metal back and forth when tightened. The way the metal is cut ie high speed/heat hardens the metal which makes it less plyable. The only way to counter act this affect is to reheat treat the metal. In short its better to buy a feedneck that is milled and oil cooled then to do it yourself with a Dremel. Not to mention it looks a lot nicer. How much dose Jay charge to do a Xmag module or a PTP vert feed?

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              • matteusz
                It's not about the gun.
                • Aug 2006
                • 1106

                #8
                Originally posted by flyingpootang
                Eric, Nope I never cut a pressed in feed. The strain relief or drill stop allows the stress of the cut metal to radiate from one side to the other without continuing down or across the cut lines. Although it will not stop the metal from breaking off if the metal is work hardened by constant/over flexing the metal back and forth when tightened. The way the metal is cut ie high speed/heat hardens the metal which makes it less plyable. The only way to counter act this affect is to reheat treat the metal. In short its better to buy a feedneck that is milled and oil cooled then to do it yourself with a Dremel. Not to mention it looks a lot nicer. How much dose Jay charge to do a Xmag module or a PTP vert feed?

                I think Jay only charges 40$ or so to do a very feed on a classic body not sure what he would want to put a clamping neck on a micro.
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                • captian pinky
                  Bearded Works

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 2755

                  #9
                  what about just putting a ego neck on it

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                  • matteusz
                    It's not about the gun.
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 1106

                    #10
                    Originally posted by captian pinky
                    what about just putting a ego neck on it

                    Good Idea but the pressed in feed it too big.
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                    • A-Tach-One
                      I'm done!!!!

                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2204

                      #11
                      I modded my dad's MicroE today with a Hybrid hedloc 2.

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                      • matteusz
                        It's not about the gun.
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1106

                        #12
                        Originally posted by A-Tach-One
                        I modded my dad's MicroE today with a Hybrid hedloc 2.

                        That looks awesome. How did you attach it? Did you cut down the stock one or what?
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                        • A-Tach-One
                          I'm done!!!!

                          • Mar 2005
                          • 2204

                          #13
                          I cut the stock one in half and yank it out in a vice since they are pressed fit like XMags. Dremeled the bottom of the hybrid feedneck the same shape as the stock feed and pressed it in. Now this neck was so tight that I had to force it in good. That means I don't have to drill for a set screw, it isn't coming out anytime soon unless I cut it. :)

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                          • flyingpootang
                            Magtechian with X disease

                            • Dec 2005
                            • 2276

                            #14
                            Wow nice job Eric.

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                            • A-Tach-One
                              I'm done!!!!

                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2204

                              #15
                              Originally posted by flyingpootang
                              Wow nice job Eric.
                              Thanks Richard.

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