PTP going after Brass Eagle

[Paintchucker]

I'm not picking sides here, but that article seemed very biased to me.

Who was it written by?

Pro-Team Products and JT Sports going to Arbritration
By Pro-Team Products
Jul 25, 2007, 12:26

[rabidchihauhau]

the article was generated by ptp

[Papa_Smurf]

Thats what I thought. Also,

From the above link:
"PTP succeeded beyond expectations with the development of the MAXIS line. Brass Eagle was so impressed that it additionally contracted with Pro-Team and Mr. Hatcher to license a number of other technologies, including the locking-collet feedneck and the pneumatically assisted trigger system."

Two points,
First wow, they make themselves sound pretty good.....

Second, what does Brass Eagle want a pneumatically assisted trigger system for?


EDIT, is it ok to copy and paste that much?

[Cow123]

please take this story down immediately - it is copyrighted material

Did you seriously report his post because he posted the story on an internet forum for people to read? It's not like he's selling it or something. Wait, do you own the site? Need more advertising revenue from visitors? That's pathetic. Way to bully the little guy.

[Lohman446]

Did you seriously report his post because he posted the story on an internet forum for people to read? It's not like he's selling it or something. Wait, do you own the site? Need more advertising revenue from visitors? That's pathetic. Way to bully the little guy.

I beleive in protecting intellectual property. That statement is either true or not true "little guy" or "big guy" does not matter. It only matters in enforcement.

That being said, it did seem to be a rather biased article. Still does not change some of the facts stated.

[Lee]

Did you seriously report his post because he posted the story on an internet forum for people to read? It's not like he's selling it or something. Wait, do you own the site? Need more advertising revenue from visitors? That's pathetic. Way to bully the little guy.

68 caliber has recently sent out letters and posted on thier site that any copying of material from thier site is considered copyright infringement.

rabid was simply trying to comply with 68 caliber i believe.

[Cow123]

Wow, very similar to smart parts in the actions. Must have the same lawyers.

[rabidchihauhau]

Lee,

you are correct.

additionally, as an author, I am personally sensitive to copyright infringement issues.

And in addition to that, I am a friend of Dale Ford at 68caliber and am privy to the HUGE amount of copyright infringement they have been suffering at the hands of some of their competitors.

I can't provide details for legal reasons, but my request to AO to remove the offending material was made out of a sincere desire to protect AO and to prevent AO AND its members from getting themselves into trouble.

And yes, cow: copyright theft of internet materials DO negatively affect a websites revenue, advertising and traffic. The next time your paycheck is given to someone else, you'll know how it feels.

Papa-smurf, if you are genuinely concerned, you would do yourself a favor by visiting the us copyright website and reading the rules:

there is a concept called 'fair use' which allows people to quote a limited amount of copyrighted material for scholarly purporses, for commentary purposes, demonstration purposes, etc. You did right by citing the source, as that is another requirement.

You can quote one of my paragraphs from above and say "rabid said - (quote) and I think that's a bunch of horse puckey for the following reasons.

Or, you could quote a passage from Pride and Prejudice (giving edition and page number)
in your bookreport to illustrate a key point.

You can quote the headline of an article and provide a link.

What you can't do is reprint the entire thing without permission, and citing the source is no protection. when you do that.

anyone who's REALLY interested, go read the legal review linked to in 68caliber's article on copyright infringement.

[rabidchihauhau]

Cow,

you're obviously engaging in knee-jerk reactions:

PTP isn't suing anyone. PTP isn't preventing anyone from making anything.

PTP is trying to enforce an existing contract - one signed by both parties over two years ago. PTP did everything they were obligated to do under that contract, JT Sports hasn't.

PTP WAITED two years to do anything about it. Now they're going to arbitration - a non-suit based settlement where they try and work things out.

HARDLY a SP cease-and-desist-forthwith-or-else situation.

[Ninjeff]

it IS the internet after all.

[Cow123]

Why are you on an automag owners site? Don't you hate airgun designs for stealing smart parts electronic paintball marker idea? If I were you I would.

Oh, and I was referring to you, not ptp. Good for them, they are using the law for good, not taking advantage of technicalities to shut down people that have done nothing wrong.

[Pzippy]

This is an interesting thread...

[rabidchihauhau]

Cow,

I'm sorry I misunderstood the target of your attack.

ALL law is "technicalities"

Would you want to get sued for making a simple mistake out of ignorance when there was nothing intentionally harmful in your actions? I don't think so.

I don't think anyone would. All I was doing was protecting AO from the possibility of getting sued because one of their users made a mistake.

It was a GOOD thing, whether you want to recognize it or not

[Hexis]

Since AO complied immediately with a request to remove the offending material, no more needs to be said or done about it.

You posting about it is hardly a DMCA notice. You may be amazed at what a lil "please" will do. instead of coming off like a raving lunatic, you put a lil nice please in there and come off as someone trying to help.

[Cow123]

You posting about it is hardly a DMCA notice. You may be amazed at what a lil "please" will do. instead of coming off like a raving lunatic, you put a lil nice please in there and come off as someone trying to help.

That is basically what I am try to say. No need for all these threats when all you have to do is ask.