PTP going after Brass Eagle

[Furby]

Nice having a living legend watching out for you... Thanks Steve.

Really hate having to bring lawyers into the mess, but after spending mega-dollars to buy the site from my former business partner, I felt it necessary to protect it by enforcing my rights to the content of the site.

As for the rest, Forest is a pimp for letting me have the exclusive on this story.

[BigEvil]

Very interesting stuff. I can never understand why people and companies just cannot play nice together.

This is an interesting situation between PTP and JT/BE. I look forward to reading the opposing side's press release on 68 Cal at some point if they ever decide to respond. Seems to me like PTP shouldn't have even had to go to arbitration. But then again, I only know what I read in the article.

[rabidchihauhau]

I don't get it either.

The paintball community (and here I'm probably actually referring to a subset of that community) has a very bizarre relationship with 'rights' and 'ownership'. Maybe a bizarre understanding rather than relationship.

It seems like people aren't supposed to make money off of their inventions and hard work - but at the same time they're expected to produce something new every other day and have it ready for market now-now-now!

It also seems as if insisting that people honor contracts or respect ownership, that the people doing the insisting automatically become the bad guy in the equation.

Man that's really terrible that you got screwed over. What?!? How dare you sue the people who screwed you over!

Its very similar to the person who doesn't hesitate to steal their friends marker, but gets livid and bent out of shape if someone borrows their swab.

It will never make any sense to me.

I believe that there will be an interview with PTP folks in the near future. I can't say what's happening over on the other side.

[iambored]

wait, so if ptp is going after brass eagle doesn't that mean they're taking on J2? which is a huge company

[Chronobreak]

wait, so if ptp is going after brass eagle doesn't that mean they're taking on J2? which is a huge company

well it seems their agreements with other companies under the k2 empire are going as agreed or within reason. looks like BE is the only division of k2 that took advantage of the situation.

[RRfireblade]

well it seems their agreements with other companies under the k2 empire are going as agreed or within reason. looks like BE is the only division of k2 that took advantage of the situation.

Thier whole PB 'empire' is/was run thru BE management regardless of who was acting on the agreements.

[going_home]

JT's Response

http://www.68caliber.com/story042546.php

[MedicDVG]

In other words, "Gee we sure look stupid for letting this company go public with our dirty laundry".....


I guess the squeaky wheel does get the grease....

Now it will be interesting to see what "resolution" comes of this whole scenario.

[BigEvil]

Just remember that there are two sides to every story. PTP just made theirs public first. Usually, a lawyer tells their client to shut the hell up regarding matters in litigation. Since the internet is not the proper place to debate facts, the statement by PTP is just a PR move. Since BE is now aware of it, expect a carefully worded counter-statement from them in the near future. Then in the coming months the announcement of their settlement which will be vauge and point no blame towards either party.

[RRfireblade]

Just remember that there are two sides to every story. PTP just made theirs public first. Usually, a lawyer tells their client to shut the hell up regarding matters in litigation. Since the internet is not the proper place to debate facts, the statement by PTP is just a PR move.

Act of near desperation , to be more precise. This situation has been going on for years now. All other options have been exhausted besides the expending of huge amount of $$ on legal action.


Imagine your employer , from who the bulk of your income depends heavily on and who you had devoted the bulk of your primary resources to (neglecting many other income options due to the long term agreements made) . . .

just stops giving you your paycheck . . .

for years.

Wadda you do 'besides' putting everything you own up to try cover a legal battle ?

[BigEvil]

Act of near desperation , to be more precise. This situation has been going on for years now. All other options have been exhausted besides the expending of huge amount of $$ on legal action.


Imagine your employer , from who the bulk of your income depends heavily on and who you had devoted the bulk of your primary resources to (neglecting many other income options due to the long term agreements made) . . .

just stops giving you your paycheck . . .

for years.

Wadda you do 'besides' putting everything you own up to try cover a legal battle ?

Dude, the SECOND my employer stops paying me I stop doing work for them and look for another job.

Unfortunately, PTP is going to have to fight that legal battle.

[RRfireblade]

Dude, the SECOND my employer stops paying me I stop doing work for them and look for another job.

Unfortunately, PTP is going to have to fight that legal battle.

Personally . . .







Yea, I'm right there wit ya.

But sometimes your looking/hoping for the potential in a much bigger picture . . . but then things don't go the way you thought.

[BigEvil]

Personally . . .







Yea, I'm right there wit ya.

But sometimes your looking/hoping for the potential in a much bigger picture . . . but then things don't go the way you thought.

Well, any company I have worked for, either as a purchaser or supplier cant get away without paying their bills for very long. 30 days, pay your bill or else.. and 'else' all depends on how often previously they didnt pay on time.


Im sorry PTP is in the situation they are in, but I guess they must have saw this coming now for a while.

[RRfireblade]

Well , you know , you have a business relationship with someone for a long while and everything runs good so you get yourself in deeper. Sounds reasonable , they are a MUCH bigger company taking alot interest in your tiny family business . . . looking for growth . . . big time 'future' stuff , you can imagine. Sounds like everyones dream situation. Then some things start to change , slowly at first . . . people you have strong ties to leave or get let go , management changes , whole companies get bought out . . . but you hang in there for the dust to settle thinking , hoping . . . that when it does the big picture is still visable in thru the fog. At least thats the talk you keep hearing. In the end. . . sometimes it is , sometimes not so much. Sometimes it's a whole different view just depending on where you are standing. By then a lot of time and effort has passed.

Sometimes you just don't fully realize how deep you got . . . sometimes you do but are still hoping for the sun to be shining after the storm.

Sometimes you just end up standing in a big ugly mud puddle , trying to figure how you got there so fast. :)

[peewee]

maybe I'm an oldtimer(I think some of the younger bucks around here should search & learn what all went down in the past)... But All I can say to PTP is get U some!! I really hoped for the best when they put so much of their resorces & time into the JT. I hope that they can get whats owed & maybe get some rights to get stuff released as a private interest. HINT, HINT I be wantin a pneuframe!!!