E-Mag Owners!!! ACE Board Upgrades!

[Ruler_Mark]

Unless I am missing something this is not being offered as a single service but rather an amalgamation of products and services. Anyone wanted to be "counted in" should contact the appropriate people.


1) Buy an ace board from Papa_Smurf in his thread here:

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226778

2) Have your frame,body and rail milled for ACE by luke of lukescustoms.com or someone else with the specs being documented here:

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226906

3) Make an ace cable or buy one from Looper or tunaman and solder it to the board.

4) Buy an amtel ISP programmer from Lornecash and flash to XMOD 1.8(or if you have access to a programmer give him some money anyway)
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219652

im curious what soldering needs to be done?
looks like it plugs in into the pc board in that pic

[evade]

That orange wire doesn't come with the ace board. it is solderd to the ace board and plugs into the mainboard.

[Ruler_Mark]

That orange wire doesn't come with the ace board. it is solderd to the ace board and plugs into the mainboard.

now I feel dumb thinking the wrong board.

[KC]

Unless I am missing something this is not being offered as a single service but rather an amalgamation of products and services. Anyone wanted to be "counted in" should contact the appropriate people.

You are missing something. Im not going though all this work, and contacting members of this board for nothing. The idea is to bring this mod to the community at a a reasonable cost/low hassle upgrade. Not an amalgamation of services. -KC

1) Buy an ace board from Papa_Smurf in his thread here:

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226778

You cant buy an ace board from him in that thread. Papa and I are officialy working together on this mod and the hope of bringing it to the emag community. -KC

2) Have your frame,body and rail milled for ACE by luke of lukescustoms.com or someone else with the specs being documented here:

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226906

I have already talked to XT and Luke, both parties have expressed interest in the mill work but exact costs are not known at this time. -KC

3) Make an ace cable or buy one from Looper or tunaman and solder it to the board.

You cant buy a blank board at this time. Why buy a cable? -KC

4) Buy an amtel ISP programmer from Lornecash and flash to XMOD 1.8(or if you have access to a programmer give him some money anyway)
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219652

Though suggested xmod is not needed. AGD software will work just fine. -KC

The old way of buying several parts from several people and hunting down someone to try to mill the parts, SUCKS. No one wanted to go though it. Thats why so few emags have ace. Papa and I want to change that. Board+Milling=easy -KC

[evade]

Xmod is something most people have already and is not needed.

Unless they are running 1.37 which has no support for ace.

[KC]

Unless they are running 1.37 which has no support for ace.

Very good point. I think that agd soft can be flashed for free, in that event, up-to 3.2 legally. But honestly, if someone has 1.37 they should already be looking to upgrade the software. Ace should just be another check in a list of motivating reasons.

[flyingpootang]

There is no need for an ACE board/eyes, because the L10 bolt is more reliable and cheaper.

[KC]

There is no need for an ACE board/eyes, because the L10 bolt is more reliable and cheaper.

One could also say that about the Karta. I mean the AGD ULE is lighter and cheaper, why even buy a Karta? I think you see my point. :)

ts not "needed" but it is usefull and pretty dang cool if you ask me.

Id say ACE is more reliable...
The LVX requires much less tuning when you have the ace to back it up. Setting the LVLX too soft makes it less reliable and can lead to bolt stick. With the ace you can set up your LVX kit somewhere in the middle and use the ace as you primary anti chop measure with the LVX backing it up.

Or you can take the level 10 out all together and replace it with a lvl 7 for some added efficiency and a tune free setup.

And then there is the on/off switch. A VERY cool + to the ace board.

-Kristian

[KC]

That orange wire doesn't come with the ace board. it is solderd to the ace board and plugs into the mainboard.

Didnt come with the ace board, not doesnt. Nothing is being offered at this time, that includes ace boards. But, if this project becomes a reality... ease of installation will be a huge selling point.

We/I are not going though all this work to exclude and alienate those who cant solder.

[Ruler_Mark]

Didnt come with the ace board, not doesnt. Nothing is being offered at this time. But, if this project becomes a reality... ease of installation will be a huge selling point.

We/I are not going though all this work to exclude and alienate those who cant solder.

a molex port on the ace board might be smart then, then crimped wires can be made to wire it

[evade]

Here here, Maybe mounted on its side so clearance won't be an issue

I just noticed that I have the earliest registration date of anyone who has posted in this thread.

a molex port on the ace board might be smart then, then crimped wires can be made to wire it

[KC]

a molex port on the ace board might be smart then, then crimped wires can be made to wire it

Very good idea actually.

EDIT: Wouldnt work. this needs to be one board that can be offered to the xmag AND emag owners.

[evade]

Very good idea actually.

EDIT: Wouldnt work. this needs to be one board that can be offered to the xmag AND emag owners.

If it ships with a double sided cable wouldn't it work on X-mags too?

[Looper]

a molex port on the ace board might be smart then, then crimped wires can be made to wire it

If we are trying to eliminate the soldering for a true plug and play solution it will be very difficult. There are four wire connections on the ACE board and none of them are close to each other.

1. Red 18+ from battery to ACE board

2. Red 18+ Switched power wire from ACE to a solder connection on the back of the main board.

3. Yellow 5+ wire from ACE that gets soldered to the back of the main board.

4. Orange Signal from ACE board that has the 5 port Molex plug on the end

Here here, Maybe mounted on its side so clearance won't be an issue

Anyways here is the Mouser pages for the right angle PCB header plug

2 port

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Ntt=538-53048-0210

3 port

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Ntt=538-53048-0310

Forgive me if these topics get solved above. I've been tearing apart my Xmag to get information and it has taken about an hour to compose this post.

[KC]

Cost and space are the deterrents. We are trying to keep the boards cost as low as we can.

Officially I can now say that (if and more likely, when) this project comes together the boards will be sold as complete ready to go boards. They will come complete with wires and will only require one soldered point. Edit: (err 2 solder points)

XT has given me permission to let a cat out of the bag. Edited post one.

NEW Phoenix body runs will have the option of ace milling straight from the factory at a cost of only $25.00 (frame milling extra if needed)