Pay it forward stickey in B/S/T's

[SR_matt]

also i think it should be expected, maybe not required but ya, if who ever gets something is at least to offer up something of at least equal value to others

-matt

[trevorjk]

Then Im assuming there were issues?

not that im aware of, from what i have noticed is that after a while it goes pretty much inactive.

[Warwitch]

also i think it should be expected, maybe not required but ya, if who ever gets something is at least to offer up something of at least equal value to others

-matt

See thats a tough one though. Because the people that need the parts the most dont usually have anything extra laying around.

[SR_matt]

See thats a tough one though. Because the people that need the parts the most dont usually have anything extra laying around.

ya good point, thats kind of why i said expected to as apposed to have to.

maybe a feedback system (even just like we have now for feedback up make separate threads that everyone lists numbers of ins and outs, after a certain number of ins you are not allowed to receive unless you give some, equal numbers)
-matt

[Ratt]

Here is the link to the old "pay it forward" thread that was running for a while. I thought the format we all were using worked quite well. For example:


What I have:
vertical AM/MM ASA (black)

What I have sent out:
One set of wooden grips Sent to superhiquality87
carbon fiber single-trigger grip, with working trigger and safety Sent out to Lenny
stock twist-lock barrel Sent out to 68_Classic
bare stock AM/MM rail Sent out to Lenny
classic grey AM/MM body Sent to AutoMagClassic1

What I need:
R/T Classic on/off pins
Steel braided lines of various lengths
90* steel-braid fittings
bolt bumpers


What I have received:
Intelliframe from VFX_Fenix

Each person keeps track of what the have, need, have sent out, and received. I really liked the thread, and had no problems getting the stuff I asked for. I am all for resurrecting the thread, but I hope that it doesn't just fizzle out like the last one...

[Chris Nearchos]

I like that idea great Ratt. That would be perfect.

and after thinking about it, its true that the post count wouldnt work very well. But the idea on feedback count would be much much better.

1- because it shows if they are trust worthy of their word.
2- its a way to keep the "post whores" from being all big and bad.
3- it will incourge new people to due more trading/selling/buying here on the fourms. thus increasing the main f/s/t section of items.
4- it will open show the maturity level of mag owners to anyone that cares to see.
5- it will bring back the close mag friends that AO once had.

again, only my two cents for what it is worth.

but there is a few things we should make clear rules/thoughts of this idea:

1- the needy one pays for shipping, unless a trade of items is taking place. then each would pay same equal shipping (using the same shipping method). unless otherwise [look at rule 5]

2- everything is sent "as is", so there is cant be any complaining of something not working or whatever. (because a good bit of the things that will be up would be from "tinkering" left overs)

3- the good old saying, "beggers cant be chosers"

4- once you fail to add to the "pot" after reciving "x" amount of things, you can no longer be apart of the program or have made up the missing pot additions.

5- exspect the item to take a bit long on shipping due to it probably going by snail mail (because to make it cheap as possible, unless paid for a faster route of mailing)

6- if you begin to creat any kind of problem with the system, you will not be allowed to participate in it for a certian amount of time or never again.


these again are only suggestions. change and moddify them to best fit the idea. or even toss out the ones that wont work.


of course this will be a rough thing to get started, but if we can hang in there and smooth out any rough sections.....it will roll on smoothly.


hope this helps,
-Chris

[Ratt]

You know...off the top of my head, I can't remember who paid for the shipping last time; the giver, or the taker. I am inclined to guess that it was the giver that paid for the shipping. On one hand, it would make sense that the giver be compensated for the cost of shipping. On the other hand, if a giver received as much "goods" as he received, in the end, it all evens out. It negates the need to exchange money, therefore, no one has to worry about using paypal, sending checks, or buying money orders. Any thoughts?

[Chris Nearchos]

ship me a wish

hmm, it would be nice to not have to worry about money exchange. But i think for it is required for this. Not to put a wrinkle in this idea....but if iam to be giving away free stuff, i would atleast like the taker to pay for the shipping. Cant forget about the money "crunch" most people are feeling now with the economy. I think that would look to much like an unneeded exspanse to the giver...which would turn people away from the system.

Also, I think it helps prevents someone from getting on here and saying i want this, that, and bit of that...recieve the stuff...and then take off. And it helps prevents the "young and old" inmature ones from jumping on the system and abusing it.

I mean if you guys and gals would like to do it without the taker paying for shipping, I guess we could go with that. but I think the best thing is for the taker to atleast pay for shipping.

just my take on the idea,
-Chris

[Chris Nearchos]

they siad it was all about the location, location, location....

oh, and just looking your "location" Ratt, that would deffintly be a killer for someone to be paying shipping and paper work for someone sending out the item. another reason to add to my list of why the taker should pay for shipping.
-Chris

[Warwitch]

Sounds good to me. But I think the shipping can be worked out on an individual basis if need be. Regular mail is cheap, some may not mind. If someone needs priority or something special then they can pay for shipping.

[Ratt]

Shipping is not a problem for me. I am on a military base. Shipping to/from here is the same as shipping to/from California. But I see what you are saying. For the most part, I will ship small items on my own dime. If it costs me more than 3 or 4 dollars, then i will ask the taker to paypal me some money.

[Chris Nearchos]

shipping a dime that turns into a dollar

ah that could work. lets say if it cost more then $3 to ship.....then the taker would have to pay for ship? I think that could work for everyone.....

was also thinking. one should state why they need a certian part. that way we canh see that it is going to a good cause instead of another person's parts bin to collect dust.
-Chris

[Ratt]

And it's not like no one is going to notice if you overcharge someone for shipping...the package will have the shipping price right there on the package. So there won't be too many people charging $5 to ship something that costs $1

[Chris Nearchos]

true, but iam not looking at it for that reason. for an example, me being a college kid i dont ever have much spare cash on me. so paying left and right for the shipping would add up fast. I just trying to find a way to keep the cost as low as possible for the giver.

Iam not saying that people are out to jip on shipping. just looking at the adding cost for the giver and to keep shipping fair across the board for everyone participating.


***** I edited my previous post, so look at it for the added info.

[dre1919]

Hey Ratt, I could use that vertical MM ASA if you would like to send it to me. I will send you some 90* fittings and steel braid. What do you consider fair trade? I'm just curious as I have never done one of these threads before. Do you need new ones, or the ones I have here at home that are used? Let me know.

Thanks!
-Andrew