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  • RogueFactor
    Registered User
    • Dec 2001
    • 633

    #1

    Soon you will be supporting Smart Parts when you buy a Quick-Release feedneck...

    [sarcasm]Didnt you all know SP developed it?[/sarcasm]

    Here is the application:


    Here are the details of that application:


    As of 4/16/08:
    Claim(s) 1-9 and 26-31 is/are allowed.
  • aqua_scummm
    matthewpace.blogspot.com
    • Oct 2006
    • 185

    #2
    Ya know, I am about "over it"...

    this patent everything bull crap

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    • ThePixelGuru
      Guru of Pixels
      • May 2005
      • 1461

      #3
      Lame.

      Didn't PTP try to patent the clamping feedneck a while ago?

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      • MANN
        I am in TN. GO VOLS.
        • Apr 2006
        • 4266

        #4
        Rogue:

        do you have yours in stock. If so I might need to stock up on a few.

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        • tebo
          Registered User
          • Aug 2007
          • 107

          #5
          I think I may be wrong but didn't ccm invent the first clamping feedneck? Or did the do the helical slots added to the neck?

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          • SR_matt
            Santa Sucks
            • Jun 2006
            • 1072

            #6
            quick and easy to get the tossed out, show an add from the first clamping neck.

            im really surprised they are allowed to submit patents any more when they have had so many thrown out or later found to be wrongly issued
            -matt

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            • RogueFactor
              Registered User
              • Dec 2001
              • 633

              #7
              Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
              Lame.

              Didn't PTP try to patent the clamping feedneck a while ago?
              Yes. Their patent application is still going through as well.

              Originally posted by MANN
              Rogue:

              do you have yours in stock. If so I might need to stock up on a few.
              I dont. I will have more eventually. My neck wont be affected, it doesnt have the QR lever. Now you know the reason why Ive never added one.


              Originally posted by tebo
              I think I may be wrong but didn't ccm invent the first clamping feedneck? Or did the do the helical slots added to the neck?
              Yes, they did. CCM was claimed as prior art in the SP application.


              Originally posted by SR_matt
              quick and easy to get the tossed out, show an add from the first clamping neck.

              im really surprised they are allowed to submit patents any more when they have had so many thrown out or later found to be wrongly issued
              -matt
              Telford submitted ads from the first clamping feedneck.

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              • ThePixelGuru
                Guru of Pixels
                • May 2005
                • 1461

                #8
                Originally posted by RogueFactor
                Yes. Their patent application is still going through as well.
                Hmm, well, I suppose I'd rather see PTP get the patent, if only out of spite.

                Does Smart Parts really have a chance at getting this patent? It doesn't seem like it to me, but I've certainly been wrong about this kind of thing before...

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                • SR_matt
                  Santa Sucks
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1072

                  #9
                  if no one argues or shows that they did not have the idea first then they get it, it can always be revoked if it is proven that they did not have the idea first but its much harder at that point

                  -matt

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                  • maniacmechanic
                    PrestonCoPaintball
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3453

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SR_matt
                    if no one argues or shows that they did not have the idea first then they get it, it can always be revoked if it is proven that they did not have the idea first but its much harder at that point
                    -matt
                    does anyone have the address for the Patent Office & pics that they can post of the first cam lock ad , I know I will spend the time & the postage to send them a letter

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                    • RogueFactor
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 633

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
                      Hmm, well, I suppose I'd rather see PTP get the patent, if only out of spite.

                      Does Smart Parts really have a chance at getting this patent? It doesn't seem like it to me, but I've certainly been wrong about this kind of thing before...
                      Yes. As of 4/16, the claims listed in the first post have been allowed.

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                      • bryceeden
                        www.vernalpaintball.com
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 1076

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RogueFactor
                        Yes, they did. CCM was claimed as prior art in the SP application.
                        OK, well I didn't read the patent application as I quit caring much. But if they are listing prior art then it sounds to me like they are doing it right, cool to see them being honest about stuff.

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                        • paint magnet
                          Member # 10,261
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 2488

                          #13
                          Oh, in case anyone forgot, Smart Parts also invented .45 grip frames (not John M. Browning in 1905), macroline, and threaded barrels. Plus ball detents, LED lights and the internet.

                          *edit* Sorry, forgot Al Gore invented the internet! Duh!
                          My feedback

                          Made in USA - it matters.

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                          • Arstron
                            fusionowners.org

                            • Mar 2005
                            • 2347

                            #14
                            I guess this patent means nothing?



                            I also know that Dangerous Power was given a patent on their feednecks as well a year or so ago, however I dont know the patent number. I guess it just pays to know who to bribe.

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                            • RogueFactor
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 633

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Arstron
                              I guess this patent means nothing?
                              That would be correct, it means nothing if the SP patent grants. Please note the dates of filing...who files first is the 'rightful' owner.

                              SP patent: Filing(Priority) Date: "This application claims priority from Provisional Application Serial No. 60/600,747, filed August 14th 2004" (From Transmittal of New Application dated 6-28-2005, which can be found in Image File Wrapper)

                              Sunworld Industrial: Filing(Priority) Date: January 5, 2005

                              If the PTP application grants, it will have the earliest date. As it takes priority from one of a few applications/CIP's.

                              Originally posted by Arstron
                              I also know that Dangerous Power was given a patent on their feednecks as well a year or so ago, however I dont know the patent number. I guess it just pays to know who to bribe.
                              Whether they have been given a patent has nothing to do with it. Its all about who has the earliest priority/filing date.

                              Is the DP patent a US patent? Ive seen it referenced that they have multiple patents. Do you have a link to any of them? Or any info(like inventor name, etc)?

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