AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Humm, not really what I expected, it pretty much looks like what the DIY guys are making. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, just not what I expected. I would suggest you start with a new sear.
I'd sure like to see the hAir trigger design.
It's hugely different. The sear extender allows for the actuator to be mounted low, under the MSV-1. Since the MSV-1 is mounted so high up behind the trigger, the pull is lighter and shorter than any home made mod could ever be. The lower actuation point also allows the ram to be driven by less pressure but maintain the capability of high rof.
The trigger looks way nicer than any AGD compatible stuff too. It definitely looks like it was worth it to dish out the money rather than doing it yourself. No offense to the DIY'ers, but this looks way better than anything you could just whip up with a dremel.
And it's a great looking gun. But performance wise, I think the G-Force frames will supersede DIY jobs. Like I stated above, the way he placed the actuator and MSV-1 really makes a difference. Think about it from an engineering standpoint. The MSV-1 is at the complete top of the trigger where force can be applied to it with the most leverage by the trigger. This means a lighter and shorter pull. The actuator applies force to the bottom of the already extended sear arm. This means less force is needed from the actuator and therefore less gas is needed to power it.
It's more efficient than a DIY frame, and has a better trigger pull.
Now I'm not saying the DIY jobs suck. I've seen the vids, they're awesome. And much cheaper too. But this is a production product that has been meticulously engineered (to the point of making us wait way too long for our frames lol). It's obviously going to perform better. Your guys' frames are still unique and cool though.
Lol you guys are so defensive. I'm sure someone could replicate it and do it themselves. I'm just saying that we paid money to have it super engineered lol. The actuator is custom built and yadda yadda yadda. We'll see though. I have a feeling the pull is going to be a lot different from that of a DIY frame. Hopefully someone who bought it will have shot a DIY framed Mag. Then we can get an honest comparison.
Lol you guys are so defensive. I'm sure someone could replicate it and do it themselves. I'm just saying that we paid money to have it super engineered lol. The actuator is custom built and yadda yadda yadda. We'll see though. I have a feeling the pull is going to be a lot different from that of a DIY frame. Hopefully someone who bought it will have shot a DIY framed Mag. Then we can get an honest comparison.
I will have both a very professional DIY pnueframe ( not sure who made it, bought it on here from billybones...looks like pneumagger or MANN's work, extreamly well built, no hack job) and the G-force frame...I will post vids/comparasions/review ect....
And my DIY frame has the MSV-1 very high, as high as you could place it without relocating the articulator, the level on it is so short it just barely extends past the body of the MSV-1...so it will make a nice comparsion....and yes I will be selling in once I get my G-force frame..no need for 2 of them!
Last edited by insixdays777; 07-31-2008, 09:36 AM.
I will have both a very professional DIY pnueframe ( not sure who made it, bought it on here from billybones...looks like pneumagger or MANN's work, extreamly well built, no hack job) and the G-force frame...I will post vids/comparasions/review ect....
Wait... You have it in your hands? When did this happen?
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