G-Force frame, not vaporware!

[Hilltop Customs]

i guess thats true about switching markers...I just value the ease of change because I change mine every time I go out.(start with carbon fiber so I'm not shooting as much paint, then switch to the ep to have some fun spraying) But I guess anyone could pick up an extra sear to solve the problem and just have one permanently mounted in the adapter.

Congrats on getting some info about the frame to everyone who is waiting! (completely forgot in the last post)

My DIY frame is the awesome...It is not going to be easy to beat it....but like I said I will ba making a video comparing the two frames ( If/when I get my G-Frame)

Cant wait to see the video! No cheating tho....dont be like smart parts

[ThePixelGuru]

I had to come back into this thread to state for the record that a manual doesn't mean not vaporware - the only thing that proves it's not vaporware is the product itself.

And yeah, it makes absolutely zero sense to compare the performance of this frame to a DIY one at this point in time.

[Smoothice]

I had to come back into this thread to state for the record that a manual doesn't mean not vaporware - the only thing that proves it's not vaporware is the product itself.

And yeah, it makes absolutely zero sense to compare the performance of this frame to a DIY one at this point in time.

Couldn't agree with you or the others who posted the same more.

I"ll believe it when I see it.

[warbeak2099]

It also looks to be the exact same prototype frame we saw last year.

Check the pics from the PDF and the beginning of the dealer's thread. I personally see what look to be a lot of the same mill marks.

Also, if you'll recall, one of the holdup excuses was that they were going to drill a hole in the back of the frame to manually actuate the sear so you could pop the on/off to take out the valve. I don't see a hole, which means that either this isn't a production frame, or that partiular excuse was 100% bogus.

This does not at all even begin to prove to me that there are 100 or even 10 of these frames ready for delivery.


I'll believe it when I see photos of more than one frame. I still hope this turns out good for everyone. I still think there will be a lot of angry customers.

Sorry, I should have mentioned what Garf told me. The pictures all use the prototype frame we saw in the video. The frames we will be receiving are different. He just used pics he had of the prototype since the internal schematics are the same. All the improvements were indeed made to the new style frames that we will be receiving. Again, the pictures in the manual are of the prototype, not what we will be receiving. Cool your jets.

[Smoothice]

Sorry, I should have mentioned what Garf told me. The pictures all use the prototype frame we saw in the video. The frames we will be receiving are different. He just used pics he had of the prototype since the internal schematics are the same. All the improvements were indeed made to the new style frames that we will be receiving. Again, the pictures in the manual are of the prototype, not what we will be receiving. Cool your jets.

That info doesn't really cool any jets.

It just opens up the possibility that nothing has been done since the prototype.

I'm just going to patiently wait (for a little bit) for people to get their tracking numbers and start posting pictures and vids.

[insixdays777]

I'm just going to patiently wait (for a little bit) for people to get their tracking numbers and start posting pictures and vids.

exactly..the clock is still ticking...

[drg]

You can't beat the snappiness of a magnetic return though, an adjustable magnetic trigger is even nicer.

Personal preference, however the point is the majority of DIY jobs have NO return assistance and rely on the MSV.

[drg]

springs wear/break. magnets dont.

Talk about a completely irrelevant point. Trigger springs have been in use forever and suggesting that wear or breakage is a significant concern is quite frankly idiotic.

[warbeak2099]

from an engineering standpoint? your kidding right? I know your giddy about possibly getting a frame, but you need to stop and think about what your saying be4 posting. Putting the actuation point closer to the trigger pivot point leads to a LONGER pull for the same movement of the actuator. Yes it would make the trigger pull lighter, but you are already dealing with a much lighter pull because the longer sear arm requires less pressure to actuate. Once you hit a certain point lightness doesnt matter, thats why you need a spring or magnet for return. I'm not trying to rag on you warbreak, but your making claims in your posts you know nothing about....claiming its more efficient, better trigger pull? claiming its meticulously engineered? YOU DONT KNOW ANY OF THIS. You are sounding like a fanboy in your posts.

I was wrong about the length of the trigger pull. But yes it's going to be lighter and yes it's going to be more efficient. A ram operating on 25-30psi is obviously going to consume less air than a ram operating on 50-80psi. That's just common sense.

And I didn't mean to get into a pissing match with people who obviously feel the need to validate their decision to put together their own frame instead of buying this one. Neither one is better, both have their strong points. It seems rather silly for you to as well to make conjecture about this frame being "not that much better than a DIY job" when you obviously haven't shot one yet. I can't say it's better than a DIY job because neither have I. I merely said what it seems like.

And I'm also sorry for sticking up for the guy when no one else would. Sometimes someone needs to play devil's advocate, even if the party he's defending is in fact guilty of something. It seems like we could use a little balance around here since no one is really being objective. It's a shame, but it's reality.

This thread was made to let customers and other interested parties check out the manual. It was also meant to give a little hope to those of us waiting on our frames. If people want to derail it, that's fine. I can always delete it. That would kind of suck though. So how's about we all grow up and end the juvenile pissing match?

[Smoothice]

So how's about we all grow up and end the juvenile pissing match?

Agreed.

Why don't you lead by example?

Cause your whole last post was riddled with urine.

[warbeak2099]

Ok, clean slate starts here.

[geekwarrior]

time it took to make the manual (with the prototype frame no less) - 1/2 hour+

time the manual will keep you strung along - 2 weeks

time it would take to post a picture of a few finished frames - 5 minutes.


watching people still try to defend garf: pitiful.


/I lol'd when I saw the epoxy part...thought you guys bought a finished frame not a model airplane
//hope I'm wrong in the end

[LK-13]

i hope no one has been placated by this.
you have been thrown a bone when you ordered and paid for the whole Steak.

[mostpeople]

epoxy?


seriously?



cant wait to watch what happens what that fails miserably

[WickedKlown2]

epoxy?


seriously?



cant wait to watch what happens what that fails miserably

From what I can tell from the Manual... Epoxy is placed onto the extender pocket sidewalls on the inside,,, Sear rod is placed in the extender pocket ,,, and then a small allen screw goes through the Sear rod hole and screws into the extender... I must be reading and looking at the pictures wrong... My post is Not intended to flame,,, just looking at it from a Small Arms Repair Tech (45B) point of veiw...

Just my 2 pennies...

WK2