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  • mpsd
    Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

    • Nov 2005
    • 2778

    #1

    What's the problem with international shipping?

    This is the third or fourth time someone says he won't be selling something to me because he doesn't want to ship internationally. Can anyone, please, explain the logic behind this?

    I always say I will pay whatever the seller tells me it will cost for shipping. I have a verified paypal account and dozens of positive feedback (100% positive in fact). I have dealt with very known people on this forum, with them sending stuff several times to me and, still, there are people who doesn't want to sell things to me?

    Can anyone explain it?

    I know there are people who never did it before but, common... It's just one form you have to fill when shipping it. No big deal at all. And that excuse of "I never did it before" is absurd. What would happen with your driving experience? A different type of food? Or even sex? LOL

    Sorry for the blabling but that realy annoys me...

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  • stokecity_m
    Registered User
    • Dec 2006
    • 39

    #2
    i get this as i'm from the uk.

    it also seems people ant stupid amounts for shipping to the uk.

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    • teufelhunden
      Registered Bamf
      • Jul 2003
      • 2691

      #3
      It's a pain in the butt. I never actually go to the PO when I ship things; I print labels and then send them from work. I'd have to go to the PO for int'l shipping. Further, many countries have an import fee/tax -- which puts the seller in a position of either lying (mark it as a gift to avoid the excise) or having a pissed off buyer who may have not known about it and is now unhappy for paying more for a part.

      Add that in with the delays that seem to happen a lot with tracking issues to some countries and it makes it not worth it.
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      • masta_blasta_21
        wonna see mai cookie?
        • Nov 2006
        • 90

        #4
        Buy my eclipse cocker and I'd be happy to ship it to you

        Maybe some people just don't like money all that much. Me? I'm a fiend for it

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        • mpsd
          Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

          • Nov 2005
          • 2778

          #5
          Originally posted by teufelhunden
          It's a pain in the butt. I never actually go to the PO when I ship things; I print labels and then send them from work. I'd have to go to the PO for int'l shipping. Further, many countries have an import fee/tax -- which puts the seller in a position of either lying (mark it as a gift to avoid the excise) or having a pissed off buyer who may have not known about it and is now unhappy for paying more for a part.

          Add that in with the delays that seem to happen a lot with tracking issues to some countries and it makes it not worth it.
          OK. Now you got a point. Here in Brazil they do charge you 60% over the merchant's value. It is a pain and I did ask some people to mark it as a GIFT. It's true. Even so, I'm absolutelly aware of the risk of paying this tax and I did have to pay several times. Still, that's on me, the buyer, not the seller.

          If it gets caught by the government (I had four packages that were held by the army and one by the FDA here), still, that's my problem. In my case, I received everything I bought as, obviously, paintball isn't prohibited in Brazil but still they wanted to verify it. Took three months to get it but it's here. The frustration (and possible loss) is all mine.

          Now, as I said, I do ask people to mark it as a gift. If the seller doesn't want to do so (I don't see why but still, it's on him/her) all he has to do is tell me so. Then I decide if I'm still buying it or not.

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          • Toll
            Registered User
            • Jun 2005
            • 758

            #6
            Because people are scared of going international...this can mean a few things

            1) International mail fraud
            2) They think they might have to do something extra

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            • BiNumber3
              Dazed and Confused

              • Feb 2008
              • 1038

              #7
              I can and will ship out of the states, doesnt matter much to me, ive never had customs probs n the paper work is about the same either way, i seriously might add one or two more words for international:P

              As for cost, if the buyer pays for it, why not, if they dont then they don't get the package, thats all.

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              • maniacmechanic
                PrestonCoPaintball
                • Aug 2006
                • 3453

                #8
                I " think " the reason most folks won't ship to Canada or overseas is just because they are Lazy , mabey they "just don't have the time " , if they can sell it here ( USA ) , just hit a button on thier computor , print a label & throw it in thier mailbox , why should they do any extra work
                Personally I think it's kind of cool knowing we have a worldwide Mag thing going on , I know if I ever go to Brazil , I got 1 guy I can call that I have something in common with

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                • mpsd
                  Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2778

                  #9
                  Originally posted by maniacmechanic
                  I " think " the reason most folks won't ship to Canada or overseas is just because they are Lazy , mabey they "just don't have the time " , if they can sell it here ( USA ) , just hit a button on thier computor , print a label & throw it in thier mailbox , why should they do any extra work
                  Personally I think it's kind of cool knowing we have a worldwide Mag thing going on , I know if I ever go to Brazil , I got 1 guy I can call that I have something in common with
                  That you can be sure! LOL Lots of them actually. Last count it was 12 Mags in the house!

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                  • Ruler_Mark
                    AKAOG.ORG
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 2600

                    #10
                    I ship internationally but only on things I need to sell badly or making a good amount on.


                    Because here, I can go anytime to an automated postal center spend 20 seconds to ship something domestic. Intetnational requires printing the label online and waiting on average over 30 minutes in line just to hand it to a postal employee. Blame USPS.

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                    • Jaan
                      It's Pronounced *John*

                      • Apr 2005
                      • 1310

                      #11
                      Wow, i had no idea it was all that difficult to ship something internationally...

                      ...oh wait, that's right, I ship hazardous materials internationally all the time. You wanna talk about paperwork?

                      If I ever decide to sell anything I own I will gladly ship to you.

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                      • michbich
                        machinist-biochemist
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 849

                        #12
                        I always ask to get it shipped by USPS and to scan a copy of their receipt. I have never received a border tax with USPS. I did however receive a big ones from UPS and FedEX.

                        But it is difficult to find sellers that don't mind shipping outside of the country. The main reason i have been given is for mail fraud.

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                        • Rudz
                          Registered User

                          • Apr 2005
                          • 5087

                          #13
                          I've shipped to brazil!!!!! Lol took me a few extra minutes but that's abt it, I think the recent threads revolving around complaints and lost packages being shipped to canada is really to blame, and lets not forget the guy from the UK who took abt a month to ship 2k worth or merch to KCsrtule? So I know its minor, but it seems significant just because of the recent threads of and attention they got, I for one don't mind shipping internationally
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                          • mpsd
                            Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                            • Nov 2005
                            • 2778

                            #14
                            Thanks for your support guys! You rock!

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                            • MANN
                              I am in TN. GO VOLS.
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 4266

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stokecity_m
                              i get this as i'm from the uk.

                              it also seems people ant stupid amounts for shipping to the uk.
                              www.usps.com check the shipping rates there.

                              Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
                              Intetnational requires printing the label online and waiting on average over 30 minutes in line just to hand it to a postal employee. Blame USPS.
                              VERY TRUE. And sometimes have to argue that what you are shipping is just a "valve"

                              I will ship anywhere in the world, and have (Germany, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, France, Great Britain, Australia, Netherlands, Switzerland, and once to Slovenia). Here is the problem with shipping anywhere.

                              Someone pays you via paypal. You have to show that the package arrives; otherwise the buyer can go back through paypal and try to get a refund. This will basicly make your paypal account frozen untill you settle it with paypal. This takes ~ 45 days to do even if you have tracking info.

                              I have been burnt from others where you ship them a 20 dollar part without tracking/insurance (due to shipping overseas costing more than the part). Just to have them turn around and say "It never came" Sure USPS looses packages, but why is it always the ones you cant prove. IMO I would rather give an item away as to deal with the BS sometimes.

                              MPSD none of this really applies to you as you have always been a steller buyer as far as I am concerned....however I can understand when that it is sometimes a pain in the

                              If you ever need something I would be more than happy to accept a shipment from someone, and send it down to you.

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