What's the problem with international shipping?

[Lohman446]

Now, as I said, I do ask people to mark it as a gift. If the seller doesn't want to do so (I don't see why but still, it's on him/her) all he has to do is tell me so. Then I decide if I'm still buying it or not.

The why not involves the term fraud, the US postal service, and the federal government. Marking something as a gift that is not is blatantly fraudulent. I simply have ignored this request from buyers in the past.

[eckoblazer]

I don't mind shipping parts internationally, it's when it comes to complete markers I tend to avoid it. Shipping to Brazil is very easy though, you usually don't even have to fill out any paperwork.

[Hilltop Customs]

I have no problem shipping internationally as long as the same amount of cash ends up in my pocket. (other than paypal fees on the added shipping transaction, which I can handle)

[jade_monkey07]

You dont need to label it as Gift, label it as "old marker parts" and lower the value of it.

[BenoitOWN]

Only thing I won't accept are people that ask 30$-35$ for shipping international(I dont know for oversea rate but im talking to canada). Wich is alots of money in their pockets as I do know it never costed that much.

[DevilMan]

I've lived overseas as well and may in the future and don't really look forward to the hassle again.

One thing shipping in state is also USPS... That's United States!!! They have no authority outside of the US. So even if you insure it and track it and all there is no way to legally push to find something that gets "lost".

Meaning... It left our shores on this run and poof!!! Out of our jurisdiction....

I think that's one of the issues. Which comes down to the Fraud stuff. Someone says send me something... you box it and send it and they say they don't get it and kick PayPal in the shins and get their money back. So now the seller is out the part and out the fundage. Even if the part is lost somewhere it's still money lost for them.

At least within borders there are ways to get back at the person if they try to steal it. The USPS frowns upon mail fraud heavily. And if it's across state lines it becomes a Federal issue. So there are ways of kickin the poo to make a stink that can't be done when the poo is on foreign soil.

Hope it helps and hope you get what you need...

DM

[BenoitOWN]

Are you saying that USPS will do nothing if a package get lost if it ship international?

I do know that Canada Post will do something because I had issue twice and canada post worked on it, provided a phone number of the buyer and they called me when it got delivered.

I agree to not get thing shipped by UPS or fedex, once was doing a trade but needed to cancel it because UPS was charging me 215$. The only thing UPS is good for is the tracking number as it is really detailled but get burned down most of the time with hidden fee.

You know the ''guy'' that need to check in a big book to see what apply to the items AND them needing to go to custom and grabs your package that cost 35$ AND the tax. Depending it what it can cost you as much as the item.

Good thing about usps is that if you get charged it the tax + 5-8$ handling fee depending on package size.

I never really had trouble with usps shipping and most of the time it pass without being charged but yea all cost that is generated after it pass the border is the responsability of the buyer to pay.

But beware of something, be aware of who the seller is because I did had a guy and I had issue with no receip and tracking showed nada on update and he didn't even do a THING to get it resolved because his personnal rule was ''It not my responsability once it leave my hand'' and just keeped telling me to do all the job myself for insurance(when it was shipped by usps) and was clearly told that it need to be the seller to ask for it!(keeped replying that) That gave me a bad feedback on a forum(with me having around 90 positive feedback all over places) just never stopped someone from buying/selling to me.

[wetwrks]

Let me give you my story. Had a fellow order a twistlock barrel from me. I shipped UPS insured. I marked on the paperwork "paintball barrel". It made it to the processing station in my state. They held on to it for a few days trying to decide if it was a firearm part. Even opened the package to look at it. Decided it was a firearm part and that it wouldn't make it thru customs and returned it to me. The package showed on my doorstep (mailing tube). I pick it up to find they didn't reseal it and it was missing the endcap ... and the barrel.

I then had to refund the fellow his money, come up with a receipt (for a barrel I had had for more than 10 years) and wait for a refund that may or may not be paid.

You say it isn't much of a hassle? I disagree.

I know that it is a pain getting parts when you don't live in the US but it isn't so easy dealing with trying to ship them out of the country either.

[Wicked_Silence]

Well my main beef is the people that are LAZY and the ones that pad their pocket by overcharging on shipping.

Ex #1: I offer trader 'X' some cash for an item. I tell them that I am in Canada and that my offer includes shipping. They either say yes, or no. No biggie. The ones that bother me are the ones that don't bother to check to see what the actual shipping costs are and whine because they ended up paying more then expected for shipping. Don't whine to me cause if you would have checked it out yourself, we could have avoided the whole mess to begin with.

Ex#2: I purchased an complete autococker valve with IVG, spring, and some other small stuff. The jerk charges me $15.00 for shipping. Which I paid because I didn't know any better. I get the package and I can clearly see on the package that he paid $1.75 for shipping and MAYBE $.50 for the padded envelope. His excuse for charging so much shipping was that I bought the parts for dirt cheap. (This was on E-Bay). My thoughts are, he shoulda put a reserve on em if he wanted 'X' amount of dollars for the stuff and not started at a $1.00


I make offers which include shipping all the time. If something is worth 'X' dollars to me shipped thats what I'm willing to pay. Its up to the buyers to say yes or no. Its also up to me if the package gets here and there are customs fees due.


Don't tell me that shipping is going to run $40 minimum as I can clearly see on the USPS site that international flat rate boxes start at $23.00

[Ruler_Mark]

Well my main beef is the people that are LAZY and the ones that pad their pocket by overcharging on shipping.

Ex #1: I offer trader 'X' some cash for an item. I tell them that I am in Canada and that my offer includes shipping. They either say yes, or no. No biggie. The ones that bother me are the ones that don't bother to check to see what the actual shipping costs are and whine because they ended up paying more then expected for shipping. Don't whine to me cause if you would have checked it out yourself, we could have avoided the whole mess to begin with.

Ex#2: I purchased an complete autococker valve with IVG, spring, and some other small stuff. The jerk charges me $15.00 for shipping. Which I paid because I didn't know any better. I get the package and I can clearly see on the package that he paid $1.75 for shipping and MAYBE $.50 for the padded envelope. His excuse for charging so much shipping was that I bought the parts for dirt cheap. (This was on E-Bay). My thoughts are, he shoulda put a reserve on em if he wanted 'X' amount of dollars for the stuff and not started at a $1.00


I make offers which include shipping all the time. If something is worth 'X' dollars to me shipped thats what I'm willing to pay. Its up to the buyers to say yes or no. Its also up to me if the package gets here and there are customs fees due.


Don't tell me that shipping is going to run $40 minimum as I can clearly see on the USPS site that international flat rate boxes start at $23.00

Flat rate boxes are only to certain areas. Also some guns do not sit well in said boxes in-order to secure that they will get there a OK.

[Wicked_Silence]

Flat rate box from anywhere in the states to Canada = $23 bucks unless I'm missing something. Maybe if its in one of those out of the way, services 1000 people postal outlets, but every time I've checked shipping ymself, thats what I see.

[MANN]

The down side to flat rate boxes is that they are not always availible. I know that 3 of the closest post offices near me do not offer flat rate international boxes (one of the ones is the Knoxville Post office IE main store). You have to order them. Ordering boxes takes ~ 3 weeks to complete.

[BenoitOWN]

I remember when you could order box for free by usps ... what happened with it?

[MANN]

I remember when you could order box for free by usps ... what happened with it?

They are free. They are SLOW.

[Ruler_Mark]

Flat rate box from anywhere in the states to Canada = $23 bucks unless I'm missing something. Maybe if its in one of those out of the way, services 1000 people postal outlets, but every time I've checked shipping ymself, thats what I see.

I meant to all locations internationally. this thread is international shipping not canada.