What's the problem with international shipping?

[Wicked_Silence]

Funny how Canadians will tell you standard USPS tracking doesnt stop at the border,
but the United States Postal Service says it does.

Inevitably buyers will attempt to get you to lie on the customs form about the items value (or can you please just call it a "gift"), or try to get you to ship it standard mail, which leaves you the seller open to getting the "mag79" treatment.


/end rant

Its funny that YES, the tracking numbers work across the boarder. As stated in a pervious post, I was able to track a package sent from Ontario, all the way down to Texas. When it hit the border, all I had to do was change websites and put in the SAME tracking number into the USPS system for the info. I was also able to do that with a package sent from Michigan and delivered to me. Maybe your info sources are wrong Going_Home, maybe your just ignorant to the fact that not everything is the way you 'think it is'. Either way, please don't try to sour the opinions of others about cross border shipping with your 'FACTS'.

And for the record, the back has yet to show. I did however post that I received a refund and did cancel the claim as soon as paypal would let me. If I was just out to give someone the 'mag79 treatment', I wouldn't have bothered and left the claim open because the refund came from a different account entirely. You can verify all this with mag79 if you choose to via PM.

I'd also like to point out a feedback post from my thread.

Great Buyer. Even sent item first, no problems. No worries people, hes Legit

This seller, being with very little feedback sold me his marker, and due to the lack of feedback, sent the marker first. I received it with no tracking on it at all, what did I do? I sent him his money because thats what we had agreed on. Maybe, if I was out to rip people off, I shoulda started with him???? I keep communications open when I deal, I am very forward with my info because I feel I need to be to make the transaction go smooth.

And I will point out that it was this very marker that later made its way down to Texas, WITH TRACKING.

[Ruler_Mark]

Its funny that YES, the tracking numbers work across the boarder. As stated in a pervious post, I was able to track a package sent from Ontario, all the way down to Texas. When it hit the border, all I had to do was change websites and put in the SAME tracking number into the USPS system for the info. I was also able to do that with a package sent from Michigan and delivered to me. Maybe your info sources are wrong Going_Home, maybe your just ignorant to the fact that not everything is the way you 'think it is'. Either way, please don't try to sour the opinions of others about cross border shipping with your 'FACTS'.

And for the record, the back has yet to show. I did however post that I received a refund and did cancel the claim as soon as paypal would let me. If I was just out to give someone the 'mag79 treatment', I wouldn't have bothered and left the claim open because the refund came from a different account entirely. You can verify all this with mag79 if you choose to via PM.

I'd also like to point out a feedback post from my thread.



This seller, being with very little feedback sold me his marker, and due to the lack of feedback, sent the marker first. I received it with no tracking on it at all, what did I do? I sent him his money because thats what we had agreed on. Maybe, if I was out to rip people off, I shoulda started with him???? I keep communications open when I deal, I am very forward with my info because I feel I need to be to make the transaction go smooth.

And I will point out that it was this very marker that later made its way down to Texas, WITH TRACKING.

Wicked, depending on your location in Canada tracking is and isn't available from USPS.

[Chris Nearchos]

hmm

well i have to step in with my two cents.


as most of the AO'ers outside of the US know (that have delt with me), I am more then willing to ship outside the US and that is without making the buyer pay an arm and leg for shipping.


I honestly dont find any problem with shipping outside the US least if the buyer is willing to send payment via paypal. paypal takes care of the hassel of the paper work. all you do is fill in 2 or 3 sentences extra (then you would do when shipping in the US). even if payment isnt sent by paypal, i am more then willing to ship out of the US. just give me a extra day or two to process the order and get it shipped out.


but the paper work shouldn't be a problem if you use www.usps.com to ship...or paypal. only takes 2 more minuets to fill out the forum online.

as for the tracking I agree with everyone's statements about shipping across the boarder. yes the detail tracking stops at the boarder......but does give info on delievery. so tracking does work a "bit" outside the US....least for the real detial that is needed. whether it has been delivered or not. thats pretty much all I or a buyer needs to know.


now for the price of shipping outside the US.....I know what they are complaining about and understand (the people outside the US). but if you have delt with me ( shipping out of the US), you know i give all the hard cold facts on the price. heck i even give you the pricing for a few different methods.


and one thing i make clear is liability though. i make sure to let the buyer know that if he/she doesnt buy parcel insurance, that once i put the parcel in the mail, i do not hold any responcability. and if they try to cause a problem with paypal, the tracking number is right there to show that it has been processed and did leave the boarder.


the onlything i can say that would be against the people buying from outside the US is the whole time thing.

If you don't pay the price for fast shipping you wont get it as fast as you want! you cant pay for econamy rates and exspect it to arrive in less then a business week. If you want cheap shipping, exspect a bit of a wait (usually less then two buisness weeks though).





but other then that, as long as the buyer and I can agree on shipping terms..... All is good.




and i will state it openly incase some of you other outside US buyers havent delt with me yet. I offer any person outside the US to use me as a middle man for shipping. free of charge.

I know how many people wont ship outside the US.....and that is a big killer for people buying outside the US. So I will be glad to have items shipped to me and then right out to you if your dealing in such a situation. Heck, i offer that service free of charge! Just pay for the shipping charge to you and the paypal fees. I have already been doing that for many of the outside US AO'ers for three years now. and thats all around the world too.


-Chris

[jade_monkey07]

Your a good man Chris! I might have to take you up on this when the next stubborn person comes along

and i will state it openly incase some of you other outside US buyers havent delt with me yet. I offer any person outside the US to use me as a middle man for shipping. free of charge.

know how many people wont ship outside the US.....and that is a big killer for people buying outside the US. So I will be glad to have items shipped to me and then right out to you if your dealing in such a situation. Heck, i offer that service free of charge! Just pay for the shipping charge to you and the paypal fees. I have already been doing that for many of the outside US AO'ers for three years now. and thats all around the world too.


-Chris

[Chris Nearchos]

Your a good man Chris! I might have to take you up on this when the next stubborn person comes along

thanks for the kind words. and do take me up on my offer whenever. I would be more then glad to help you guys out.


one of the big reasons I offer such service is because i have people doing it for me in other countries. (exspecially for saab parts that i need). So i do know how great it is to have somebody helping me out in such a situation.

-Chris

[Wicked_Silence]

well i have to step in with my two cents.


as most of the AO'ers outside of the US (that have delt with me), I am more then willing to ship outside the US and that is without making the buyer pay an arm and leg for shipping.


I honestly dont find any problem with shipping outside the US least if the buyer is willing to send payment via paypal. paypal takes care of the hassel of the paper work. all you do is fill in 2 or 3 sentences extra (then you would do when shipping in the US). even if payment isnt sent by paypal, i am more then willing to ship out of the US. just give me a extra day or two to process the order and get it shipped out.


but the paper work shouldn't be a problem if you use www.usps.com to ship...or paypal. only takes 2 more minuets to fill out the forum online.

as for the tracking I agree with everyone's statements about shipping across the boarder. yes the detail tracking stops at the boarder......but does give info on delievery. so tracking does work a "bit" outside the US....least for the real detial that is needed. whether it has been delivered or not. thats pretty much all I or a buyer needs to know.


now for the price of shipping outside the US.....I know what they are complaining about and understand (the people outside the US). but if you have delt with me ( shipping out of the US), you know i give all the hard cold facts on the price. heck i even give you the pricing for a few different methods.


and one thing i make clear is liability though. i make sure to let the buyer know that if he/she doesnt buy parcel insurance, that once i put the parcel in the mail, i do not hold any responcability. and if they try to cause a problem with paypal, the tracking number is right there to show that it has been processed and did leave the boarder.


the onlything i can say that would be against the people buying from outside the US is the whole time thing.

If you don't pay the price for fast shipping you wont get it as fast as you want! you cant pay for econamy rates and exspect it to arrive in less then a business week. If you want cheap shipping, exspect a bit of a wait (usually less then two buisness weeks though).





but other then that, as long as the buyer and I can agree on shipping terms..... All is good.




and i will state it openly incase some of you other outside US buyers havent delt with me yet. I offer any person outside the US to use me as a middle man for shipping. free of charge.

I know how many people wont ship outside the US.....and that is a big killer for people buying outside the US. So I will be glad to have items shipped to me and then right out to you if your dealing in such a situation. Heck, i offer that service free of charge! Just pay for the shipping charge to you and the paypal fees. I have already been doing that for many of the outside US AO'ers for three years now. and thats all around the world too.


-Chris

For those US sellers that have just fell in line with the hype of "Shipping International is bad and not worth it'", pay attention to what Chris says. Its true.

[AJoe]

[phizz]

I have to say I am totally with you on this one! Being in Canada I have the same issues. I have bought hundreds of paintball supplies online from this forum, other paintball forums and ebay. I have had only one issue where a PGP was confiscated because it was labelled gun parts. You get a letter in the mail and as long as you can confirm what it is the package will be sent. I have also had things being held up in customs and more often then not the packages are opened by customs officials but they always arrive.

Also in response to AJoe because of our crazy firearms law you have to state it being a paintball marker.

[Chris Nearchos]

hmm

hmm, now see...thats wrong. I have talkd this up with a few customs officials and other official people about the whole subject of it being a "firearm".

the thing that makes it not a "firearm" is the fact that it does not use "exploses" to make the projectile fly.

the only thing that any shipping service has a right to deny is the tanks. they have the right to not ship them if the reg is on the tank.

but i highly suggest when shipping complete markers to take it in parts. as long as you take the trigger frame off.....it is officially considered "parts" then.

how do i know this? again, i ship all over the world and have to double check all the customs regulations. if yoru affriad of something not going through customs....just look it up. you might actually learn something useful.


btw, the hardest country to ship to is germany. and if I can get paintball markers into there...they can be shipped anywhere. you just have to know how.




but again let me restate a very useful fact. IF SHIPPING A COMPLETE MARKER.....just take the trigger frame off the marker. and best part is....its only two screws....



sorry if iam coming off a bit rude or hostile, but i am also getting tired of seeing people say that they wont ship outside the US because its bad or very problematic. Its not, just got to know how to do it right.

-Chris

[going_home]

Wicked, depending on your location in Canada tracking is and isn't available from USPS.

Dont bother.
United States Postal Service doesnt know what they are talking about according to the all knowing wicked silence ?
I dont have a problem shipping to the great white north at all, but it will go by USPS Global Express Guaranteed or it wont get shipped.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234257&highlight=mag79

[Chris Nearchos]

Dont bother.
United States Postal Service doesnt know what they are talking about according to the all knowing wicked silence ?
I dont have a problem shipping to the great white north at all, but it will go by USPS Global Express Guaranteed or it wont get shipped.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234257&highlight=mag79

i agree with you on that %100. it is true that they (USPS) only really track it to the boarder. past that, they only get notification from the continuing shipper of whether it arrived yet or not. nothing between the boarder and delivery.

so i see and fully understand why you go for the extra protection on the shipping. and i guess if the buyer really wants the item....then they will have to pay for the shipping.

but atleast you leave the door open to shipping elsewhere. cant argue with that.

-Chris

[Wicked_Silence]

Hey, going home. You started this stuff in the last post and are now trying to pick it up again here? That link you posted, do me a favour and go and re-read it. You've got people all over this forum telling you that they have shipped with tracking and your completely ignoring them. I'm not the only one telling you this, but you seem to have made this a personal grudge or something with me. What did I ever do other then state what I know to be true and others have confirmed it. So BACK OFF!

[going_home]

What did I ever do other then state what I know to be true and others have confirmed it.

Exactly. Same here. I stated that the USPS standard tracking stops at the border, and others confirmed it.

Here you go, taken from USPS.com :

Can I track Priority Mail International?

Priority Mail International has delivery information limited only to major destinations.

[Wilko]

but other then that, as long as the buyer and I can agree on shipping terms..... All is good.

and i will state it openly incase some of you other outside US buyers havent delt with me yet. I offer any person outside the US to use me as a middle man for shipping. free of charge.

I know how many people wont ship outside the US.....and that is a big killer for people buying outside the US. So I will be glad to have items shipped to me and then right out to you if your dealing in such a situation. Heck, i offer that service free of charge! Just pay for the shipping charge to you and the paypal fees. I have already been doing that for many of the outside US AO'ers for three years now. and thats all around the world too.
-Chris

Wow, that a great service you're offering there, Chris.

I have witnessed first hand the problems international customers can bump into. I spent the better part of the last two weeks getting my first paintball kit together, with a tac-one, shoulder stock, q-loader stuff, regulator, remote line, bottle, vest, multicam outfit, etc. all being ordered or bought in the U.S..

Being Dutch, I ran into many PB related sites that either didn't offer international shipping (or didn't mention that on their site), or that gave shipping quotes of equal value to what I wanted to order. For example, getting a q-loader 500 package shipped to the Netherlands for 250 US$ makes me feel ripped off, plain and simple.

I understand that it can be extra hassle and feel like more risk for the seller, and I totally understand someone unwilling to ship internationally. However, I have managed to convince a few people to depart with their goods by willing to pay them a little extra for their trouble and perceived extra risk.

The fact is that some of the stuff that seems relatively easily available here, is very rare when I live. So yes, when ordering in the U.S., I count on having to pay roughly in euro what things cost in dollars over there. With shipping and customs added, that's about 25 to 30% on top of the normal price. Still, so far, I consider it to be worth it. :-)

Of the people willing to deal with me, thank you for accepting my business and money! :-)
Those who would prefer not to, so be it. I'll just keep looking for someone who is willing, and so far I've been able to find what I needed, new or second hand.
Personally, I'd sell to whoever wanted to pay enough to take goods off my hands, as long as they seemed legit. If they are crazy enough to pay an arm and a leg for something that doesn't cost that much over here, it's their choice.

[Wicked_Silence]

Exactly. Same here. I stated that the USPS standard tracking stops at the border, and others confirmed it.

Here you go, taken from USPS.com :

Can I track Priority Mail International?

Priority Mail International has delivery information limited only to major destinations.

Global Express Guaranteed is the only way to get tracking to the international destination thru USPS and its starts at 39.99 US and goes up quickly with weight increases.

Well first you say that tracking with priority is not available, and then you say its available to only major destinations. I wish you'd make up your mind, either it is, or is not available. I never said it was or was not available to all Canadian destinations, but I guess I just happen to live in a major destination and thats why I'm able to get it. As for that, you no longer exist going_home. I'm thru responding to any more of your posts. And as for the freak back in question, it still hasn't arrived and its been over 3 months since I paid for it.