Gruntbull Anodizing Woes. Not a happy camper...AGAIN!

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  • Warwitch
    Resident Skeptic

    • May 2006
    • 3176

    #46
    Originally posted by BigEvil
    Bunny's thread on PBN went poof!!

    Why am I not suprised. Thats crap. Try to inform the community when someone has a legit gripe and you get pulled.

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    • Dend78
      Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
      • Oct 2004
      • 2963

      #47
      Originally posted by BigEvil
      Bunny's thread on PBN went poof!!
      on PBN no never nothing ever just falls through the cracks there

      :spit_take
      2k2 Angel LCD
      turbo trigger
      CP volumizer
      PIPE KIT

      2k Angel CnC LCD
      Vert Frame
      Freak Barrel

      B2k x-milled
      micro rock
      Dye sticky 3's
      vertical max-flo
      Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

      Egg 2 y board
      Empire Reloader
      Dye Throttle 91/4500
      Crossfire 114ci/3000
      Angel Air Reg

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      • Warwitch
        Resident Skeptic

        • May 2006
        • 3176

        #48
        WOW. Just checked GB's website and a couple of things caught my eye.

        1: My Viking is on thier homepage under "Recent Work"

        and

        2: It seems that now they are anodizing yo-yos. And I quote:

        "Heck even Todd has looked into a Yo to pass away some of the time throughout the day."

        Im guessing thats what they were doing when they should have been watching our markers.

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        • Spider-TW
          U R techno-literate!

          • Oct 2006
          • 3554

          #49
          I'll bet there's a new guy doing the work. It's hard to believe that someone would even bother doing the work in the first place if they were capable but didn't care enough about their work to produce quality results.

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          • Dend78
            Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
            • Oct 2004
            • 2963

            #50
            Originally posted by gruntbull
            Robert, what can i do to make this right?



            A) complete refund.

            B) reanodize complete marker.

            C) complete refund and reanodize complete marker.

            What do you think is fair?


            glad to see this its great when a company will actually own up and say exactly that
            2k2 Angel LCD
            turbo trigger
            CP volumizer
            PIPE KIT

            2k Angel CnC LCD
            Vert Frame
            Freak Barrel

            B2k x-milled
            micro rock
            Dye sticky 3's
            vertical max-flo
            Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

            Egg 2 y board
            Empire Reloader
            Dye Throttle 91/4500
            Crossfire 114ci/3000
            Angel Air Reg

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            • Ruler_Mark
              AKAOG.ORG
              • Aug 2007
              • 2600

              #51
              Originally posted by Dend78
              glad to see this its great when a company will actually own up and say exactly that

              Yea after they ruin a virgin euro xmag body.

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              • Dend78
                Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
                • Oct 2004
                • 2963

                #52
                Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
                Yea after they ruin a virgin euro xmag body.
                very true, but ive seen crap all to many times go as is because a company wouldnt do anything about it even though it was their problem to fix
                2k2 Angel LCD
                turbo trigger
                CP volumizer
                PIPE KIT

                2k Angel CnC LCD
                Vert Frame
                Freak Barrel

                B2k x-milled
                micro rock
                Dye sticky 3's
                vertical max-flo
                Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

                Egg 2 y board
                Empire Reloader
                Dye Throttle 91/4500
                Crossfire 114ci/3000
                Angel Air Reg

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                • DevilMan
                  FeedBack is at my HomePage
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 2479

                  #53
                  Kudos to GBA for stepping in and posting up.

                  Bunny... Best of luck in getting it resolved man...

                  DM

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                  • Ruler_Mark
                    AKAOG.ORG
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 2600

                    #54
                    Originally posted by gruntbull
                    How is it ruined?

                    How many times do you think a marker can be safely reanodized?


                    After anodizing almost 1000 paintball markers in the last three years I can tell you that they can safely be reanodized more times than you might think.


                    This particular marker has only been done twice. Do you really think its ruined?

                    From a collectors standpoint YES. Part of that gun's value was the fact that you can get it annoed and it would be the first anno on it. Thats something special.

                    sure a body can take a few re-annos but what about the threads. Espcially for tight tolerance guns.

                    Between this, war's gun, and the fact you lost the trigger to a friend of mine's emag without telling him and shipping his gun back missing the part. I advise no-1 to use you. Now if ya'll start producing quality again I could change my mind.

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                    • xxkylexx
                      www.Automags.net
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 395

                      #55
                      Option D, free anodizing for all...

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                      • Phaelynar
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 268

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
                        From a collectors standpoint YES. Part of that gun's value was the fact that you can get it annoed and it would be the first anno on it. Thats something special.

                        sure a body can take a few re-annos but what about the threads. Espcially for tight tolerance guns.
                        I don't think the value of the marker drops based on the number of times its' been anodized...to some extent. If its' been done like 6 times I could see where purchasing it and having the idea of re-anodizing the marker at some point in the future would be worrisome.

                        On the other hand, if the anodizing job ends up looking like a giant turd, it also decreases the value of the marker.

                        I would say the best option would be to send it back at no cost to the owner of the x-mag, with the stipulation that it comes out right this time, and that if for whatever reason the marker no longer functions due to being anodized x many times when it should've only been done once, Gruntbull purchases the marker + eats the anodizing costs.

                        I would also advise the owner of the x-mag to eliminate the fade aspect of the anodizing. Do some parts black, and some parts red. Maybe he'd eat the cost of a tattoo or making it gloss to compensate for the removal of the fade.

                        There's also another option out there as well. Seeing as Gruntbull posted here offering a full refund, use that money to send it elsewhere, or just have him pay for another company to anodize your marker. If the other company screws it up too though, I'd say it's no longer in Gruntbull's hands, and that you'll just have to deal with it.

                        Or you could just leave it as is :rofl:

                        No matter what option you choose (and you have several) I'm sure it'll work out in the end.

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                        • mobsterboy
                          Mr.StealYoDallara

                          • Aug 2004
                          • 2371

                          #57
                          oh dear...
                          and i'm waiting on my PM5 to return from GBA. I did a solid color though so maybe I'm safe.
                          RAWR
                          Dallara Den

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                          • BigEvil
                            www.BigEvilOnline.com

                            • Feb 2005
                            • 9333

                            #58
                            Originally posted by mobsterboy
                            oh dear...
                            and i'm waiting on my PM5 to return from GBA. I did a solid color though so maybe I'm safe.

                            Im glad to see GBA's desire to make this right. You should be ok.

                            I look forward to Bunny's next set of pics

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                            • Rudz
                              Registered User

                              • Apr 2005
                              • 5087

                              #59
                              Todd has balls showing up here

                              Kudos bro

                              He has offered a full refund and re anno, that sounds good to me

                              Only if todd can garantee that there won't be another "oops"

                              I think they are competent annodizers, just maybe for some reason a bit too relaxed at times


                              Hope this all works out


                              And I too vote option "D", put it to a vote

                              Aye!!!!
                              BEO MAFIA
                              sigpic

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                              • Ruler_Mark
                                AKAOG.ORG
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 2600

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Phaelynar
                                I don't think the value of the marker drops based on the number of times its' been anodized...to some extent. If its' been done like 6 times I could see where purchasing it and having the idea of re-anodizing the marker at some point in the future would be worrisome.

                                On the other hand, if the anodizing job ends up looking like a giant turd, it also decreases the value of the marker.

                                I would say the best option would be to send it back at no cost to the owner of the x-mag, with the stipulation that it comes out right this time, and that if for whatever reason the marker no longer functions due to being anodized x many times when it should've only been done once, Gruntbull purchases the marker + eats the anodizing costs.

                                I would also advise the owner of the x-mag to eliminate the fade aspect of the anodizing. Do some parts black, and some parts red. Maybe he'd eat the cost of a tattoo or making it gloss to compensate for the removal of the fade.

                                There's also another option out there as well. Seeing as Gruntbull posted here offering a full refund, use that money to send it elsewhere, or just have him pay for another company to anodize your marker. If the other company screws it up too though, I'd say it's no longer in Gruntbull's hands, and that you'll just have to deal with it.

                                Or you could just leave it as is :rofl:

                                No matter what option you choose (and you have several) I'm sure it'll work out in the end.
                                The bushing in the rail effects the valve when changed by thousanths of an inch, who use al xvalves. There can be a preformance issue with mags when they are re-annoed alot. Wasnt GB who put a hole in a ww's vik imagine the tight tolerances and how they like the constant stripping. :rofl:


                                Whats funnie is thoose who jump to defend GB on this, you pay them todo something and they dont do it. QC failed again, I have been wondering why the GB gallery isnt updated as much anymore its cause this is thier new status quo, crap.

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