New SFL Cocker $700.00 ?

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  • going_home
    Hebrews 13:8

    • Dec 2004
    • 8343

    #1

    New SFL Cocker $700.00 ?

    The ST USA site seems to be down....



    But heres a pic at pot belly nation :

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    A brand new RT ULE is only $481.00 and is looking more like a bargain everyday !
    I've never ever seen a cocker I'd give $700.00 for.

  • MANN
    I am in TN. GO VOLS.
    • Apr 2006
    • 4266

    #2
    Originally posted by going_home
    I've never ever seen a cocker I'd give $700.00 for.
    S6?

    You also said 1300 was high for a viking.

    Quality sells. If they make quality products they will sell. If not then oh well.

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    • going_home
      Hebrews 13:8

      • Dec 2004
      • 8343

      #3
      Originally posted by MANN
      S6?

      You also said 1300 was high for a viking.

      Quality sells. If they make quality products they will sell. If not then oh well.
      S6's brand new start at $500.00 with reg and barrel (not $700.00).



      Yep, $1300.00 is high to me. I do hope they sell them all though.

      So you are going to buy a $700.00 mech cocker with no reg and barrel ($800.00 with reg and barrel) ?

      The point of the post is quality already does sell for $481.00 at www.airgundesignsusa.com
      despite the claim, and I quote :

      Originally posted by blackmagic71
      Quite possibly no gun ever has, or ever will shoot as straight.
      Last edited by AO Moderation Team; 02-21-2009, 11:31 AM. Reason: fix AGD link

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      • SithSteve
        Registered User
        • Nov 2006
        • 683

        #4
        For that price, I think it should be E-bladed...

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        • BigEvil
          www.BigEvilOnline.com

          • Feb 2005
          • 9333

          #5
          Dear Shocktech,

          Good luck with that....


          Sincerely,

          Scott F.

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          • MANN
            I am in TN. GO VOLS.
            • Apr 2006
            • 4266

            #6
            Originally posted by going_home
            S6's brand new start at $500.00 with reg and barrel (not $700.00).
            I know what they go for. That is still alot for a pump (although I am in the market for one right now.) My point is to let supply and demand deal with the prices.

            Is an Xmag worth 1500...not IMO
            Is an SFL worth 2k. not IMO
            Is a rotating breech worth 220?
            this is no different than what we do with our kartas, chords, phenoixes, etc
            If they can get 7 bills for it I say go ahead.

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            • behemoth
              SVSTC?
              • Nov 2002
              • 7750

              #7
              Originally posted by BigEvil
              Dear Shocktech,

              Good luck with that....


              Sincerely,

              Scott F.

              I'm honestly almost positive this has to be Italian ESP or something.

              My sentiments exactly.

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              • Pullman
                I has Fireblade for sale!
                • Feb 2003
                • 713

                #8
                They look pretty cool. I might pick one up in a year when they are going for 300. I'd pump it though.
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                • flyingpootang
                  Magtechian with X disease

                  • Dec 2005
                  • 2276

                  #9
                  Let see them make a SFL Emag

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                  • Coralis
                    Hyper Micro
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1285

                    #10
                    ^^ or a SFL mech mag.

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                    • drewkroeker
                      Registered User
                      • May 2008
                      • 209

                      #11
                      I suppose the question is: Are there enough diehard cocker fans out there who are looking to buy a new high quality mech cocker, instead of just sticking with the gear they already have or buying used high quality gear? I know next to nothing about cockers but I'm guessing not too many people would want to buy at this price.

                      I also think x mags, SFLs, and other markers mentioned are overpriced. I have thought about buying an x mag but aside from the perhaps better software, the only thing that makes it better than my emag is looks. That and being able to say I own one.

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                      • Phaelynar
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 268

                        #12
                        I agree with the OP. Who in their right mind would spend $700 for this marker. You could have your own custom milled and anodized mech cocker for significantly less than $700.

                        $1300 for any marker is overpriced. I don't care if it's a viking, dm, angel, cyborg, etc. Especially now with the rof caps, what's the point in spending the money anymore? Weight is also becoming a thing of the past. The difference in weight between a '06 marker and a '09 marker are relatively minimal. I had my '06 milled to the barebones for $180. Guess what the body of the $1295 Cyborg RX looks like? Exactly like mine done 1.5 years before it, and with slight modification I can put in the same Tadao OLED board. Not impressed. While there might be slight upgrades, it's nothing that could convince me to spend another $1300 over buying a used product for $400-600.


                        I really don't understand how the loader market is even stable right now. What would convince me to buy a rotor for $150 when all I need is a $15 revvy to keep up with the current standards? Isn't a revvy lighter also? I mean, who gives a crap if I broke the $10-$15 hopper. It'd take going through 10-15 of them to equal the cost of one rotor/prophecy, and you'd really have to try to go through that many.

                        Herein lies the problem with paintball. Nothing incredibly innovative is reaching the market. The $1500 '09 version of the $1300 '08 marker is a number, some different colors, and maybe a new board. Instead of buying the board for the '08s, people waste $800 for no reason. Eventually it's going to catch up to the industry, and the entire system is going to collapse.

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                        • ne0nwalrus
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 61

                          #13
                          i have to say that is alittle high. but shocktech is a good company thats been hit hard in this ecomamy problem. and there going back to basics, with high quality guns in low batches. there new site said theres more to come. just hopeing a mag is in there work shop.

                          with that said i think i'd buy one if it was an e-bladed, and about couple hundred less. they get an A for effort.

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                          • MANN
                            I am in TN. GO VOLS.
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 4266

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Phaelynar
                            $1300 for any marker is overpriced. I don't care if it's a viking, dm, angel, cyborg, etc
                            Maybe...Maybe not. It is all supply and demand. I would/have paid that much for a marker that is light, fast, and reliable. I could have 2-3 unreliable markers, but instead I only need one.

                            You dont have to pay the 40k for the Cadillac. The 10k Geo will get you there. It is all about feel, and performance.

                            I personally dont care what PSP/ NPPL/ Whatever tournament applies states their ROF is. I dont play in them so it does not matter. Any place I play I can shoot whatever I want. If I want to lay down 30bps I can, and do.

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                            • trevorjk
                              <S>WooLooLoo</S>
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 4324

                              #15
                              there ARE enough die hard cocker fans willing to buy a new cocker these days. although, with the pinnicle of mech guns around $500. i just dont see very many that are willing to spend $700 on a cocker. especially when the body isnt all that great as it is just one big advertisement with not very good milling.

                              now if they had a body like the eclipse DC2 on a mech cocker, i could totally see it selling for $700

                              t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."

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