What do you think about q-loaders?

[om3n]

http://www.qloader.com/upgrades.html [/EDIT]

It's alright late is better than never thanks for the reply!

Well I already bought everything- do you think that the warp adapter pictured above will work also instead of the Tiberius adapter? Because that's what I bought


EDIT

Also I realize that this thing is going to take some time to setup properly, and I won't be disappointed if it gives problems at first. I was planning on taking Thursday off work and messing with it all day if necessary. But actually, from the way it sounds I might not even by playing on Thursday anymore anyways.


Thanks again for all the help guys- I'll post back once I get it in the mail and start setting it up!

[malJohann]

..I wanted to mount mine on the rail like malJohann, but I really wanted the top of my gun clear of hoses, etc, which can't be done with that...

I'm sure you could mod a winged rail so that a warp body would work with it. Doesn't seem to be much to it actually, then just do the same on the other side to make it look balanced and finish it off with a nice flat black anno or powder coat.

..Well I already bought everything- do you think that the warp adapter pictured above will work also instead of the Tiberius adapter? Because that's what I bought

Sure it will work, but you're going to have a high profile to it. Think higher than a standard feedneck, where mine sits lower than a standard feedneck. Is it too late to change your order (i.e. has the shipment already been sent)?

[om3n]

I'm sure you could mod a winged rail so that a warp body would work with it. Doesn't seem to be much to it actually, then just do the same on the other side to make it look balanced and finish it off with a nice flat black anno or powder coat.



Sure it will work, but you're going to have a high profile to it. Think higher than a standard feedneck, where mine sits lower than a standard feedneck. Is it too late to change your order (i.e. has the shipment already been sent)?

Well tunaman already shipped the warp adapter, so I don't know if he will take it back.


No the people at q-loader haven't even confirmed my order yet as far as I know- I'll just have to stick with this for now I guess. Later I'll possibly pick up the Tiberius adapter.

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Maybe I'll just dremel down the Warp adapter after a while if I think it's too high- after all it was only 15.50 with rushed shipping The Tiberius adapter is 35 without shipping.

Also, I know of a 10% off coupon for q-loaders if anyone wants it pm me if you do

[malJohann]

..Maybe I'll just dremel down the Warp adapter after a while if I think it's too high- after all it was only 15.50 with rushed shipping The Tiberius adapter is 35 without shipping...

Well, there IS a significant cost difference between the SP8 and Tiberius mod kits, so I guess it all depends on what you're willing to spend. With the setup you ordered you'll never get down to the same level ITO feedneck height though, due to the clamping part that goes onto the feedneck, although I guess you could get quite close.

[om3n]

Well, there IS a significant cost difference between the SP8 and Tiberius mod kits, so I guess it all depends on what you're willing to spend. With the setup you ordered you'll never get down to the same level ITO feedneck height though, due to the clamping part that goes onto the feedneck, although I guess you could get quite close.

Well eventually I might just buy the tiberius adapter... but ultimately I wanted to have a warp body anyways. That's way down the road though, and only if I totally love the q-loader.


by the way...


my order has shipped!!!!




I know some of you guys said don't get excited, but I am

[Flycatchr]

Well eventually I might just buy the tiberius adapter... but ultimately I wanted to have a warp body anyways. That's way down the road though, and only if I totally love the q-loader.


by the way...


my order has shipped!!!!


I know some of you guys said don't get excited, but I am

woooohoooo
i am excited for you, because as soon as i have some money, i will be getting the q loader for my mag, i am wanting to make somehting similar to famous ganers setup, but above the stock, for protection from bumps when diving and falling. ( more like falling than tripping)

[GoatBoy]

om3n: you will be fine with the parts you have ordered. If you cut down the warp feed neck, I suspect the clamping feed neck will probably get you pretty close to the height of the threaded feed neck. (Probably within like 0.25" if the photos are accurate...)

Incidentally, when you receive the parts, you may notice how the whole thing is put together.

I believe it would be possible to make a threaded adapter out of the warp feed neck by filing a notch/groove into it so that it mates with the groove in the Q-loader metal elbow. It's hard to describe until you get the part, and then you'll know what I mean. It's a poor design on Q-loader's part, but it happens to be poor in a way that you might be able to finagle a (possibly higher quality) replacement with a regular warp neck.

I'd have done it already if I had a way to mount the feed neck on a lathe... I need some sort of expanding collet chuck...



malJohann: the problem with a simultaneous warp-left feed with a rail-left qloader is the elbow/neck and the pod can't occupy the same place at the same time... so the pod would have to shift out to the left further than I would like. Unless I mount the socket directly into the feed, but then that means the pod's reloading into my face, which I'm not so much into. Unless I turn it forward, and I don't much like that option either.

[malJohann]

..the problem with a simultaneous warp-left feed with a rail-left qloader is the elbow/neck and the pod can't occupy the same place at the same time... so the pod would have to shift out to the left further than I would like. Unless I mount the socket directly into the feed, but then that means the pod's reloading into my face, which I'm not so much into. Unless I turn it forward, and I don't much like that option either.

Well, there are options around that. If you don't mind a front-heavy setup you can shift the Q-pod forward and have it feed directly into the feedneck or you can mount it under-barrel and feed feed with a piece of hose (and maybe a 90 degree elbow). If you want the weight centered, just mount it to the grip facing forward, either underneath or to the side with a simple custom plate bracket.

[Bagheera]

I bought a ton of Qloader stuff back in the day, still have it but got no marker!

Anyway, when they were working it was great. When they weren't working it was a pain. All of mine were Gen1 Gen2's. Used to be they had a lifetime warrenty, not sure if they changed that...but i've emailed the company before and they promptly shipped me out replacement pod caps, mounting brackets, etc...without me sending in my busted ones. Was nice.

I kinda gave up on them after I couldn't get a few of them to properly keep the winding in the spring....was around when I stopped playing so didn't have the patience to try and fix. Used to run it on a Dallara bodied with the warp threaded feedneck.


oh also this

That's a very sweet setup. Did you have to do anything other than cut holes in the appropriate places to get it to feed correctly?

[Flycatchr]

did he cut a hole in the barrel, or move the detent that holds the barrel in place?


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on reflection and observating ( ) this pic, he has actually done a marvelous job of modding his mag. the whole handle has moved back, which means that the sear assembly would need to be moved, as well as bolts to hold the thing together - well done skoad, good job IMHO.

[Skoad]

-remove/shorten the sear trigger rod
-cut an area out of the gripframe and cut trigger to accomodate the new sear placement
-tap new holes for mounting the gripframe (as it has moved back about an inch)
-bore a hole through bottom of rail/body for feeding
-tap a set screw to keep barrel/body in place
-drilled holes in trigger guard and front of gripframe to put bolts to hold a vertical strip of steel to mount the q-loader
-cut the q-loader feed tube so it would sit closer to the bottom of the rail

was all done with a dremel and a variable power drill w/TI bits


Everything was straight-forward except getting the sear set up. Tom was right, messing with the sear/rod is no joke!

on reflection and observating ( ) this pic, he has actually done a marvelous job of modding his mag. the whole handle has moved back, which means that the sear assembly would need to be moved, as well as bolts to hold the thing together - well done skoad, good job IMHO.

Actually, did not have to move the sear at all. Still sits in the exact same slot/spot in the rail. Just had to cut down the trigger rod to a lil' stud. If I had to move the sear completely, I would have been in a world of hurt - which is why I opted not to move the valve/sear.

[om3n]

Order Rescheduled

Well my order SHOULD come by Tuesday. UPS rescheduled my shipment It was supposed to come Thursday last week... rrg. Well I need it by THIS Thursday because I am playing for sure then!!! I'll probably have some questions for you guys on Tuesday, and I'll definitely be posting some pictures.

[om3n]

Q-loader Arrived

WELL....

to you guys who said don't play with it as soon as you get it... you have wisdom.

Don't worry I didn't play a game with it yet, but man, I have spent a good 2 hours trying to load the pods, attach the system to my gun correctly, make the hose the right length, and make the thing feed like it's supposed to. I have already created 2 paintball shakes with the dang thing.


HOWEVER....

I am not disappointed at all Thanks to you guys, I was expecting a difficult time at first. I'm SOOO glad I started this thread, or else I would have thrown my pods against the wall by now from frustration.

My first problem was loading the system. I "configured" the adapter on my gun in the place I thought I would like it best (the position it's in right now), and then I started trying to load the first pod. I used an entire section of hose length between the PIECE OF FRICKING CRAP silo that comes with the system, and the loading socket.

After about 5 minutes of frustration, I decided to try what you guys suggested and do with a agitated hopper instead of the silo. That works excellently. HOWEVER, one section of hose was NOT enough. In fact, I spent about 20 minutes trying to load the first pod because the paint would NOT go into q-pod (lack of force from gravity I soon found out...), and in my stupidity I loaded the q-pod to it's capacity. As soon as I un-twisted it from it's socket, it broke a round in the pod. I almost had an aneurysm from my anger.

Next, I decided to use a longer section of hose length on a fresh q-pod. I then attached 2 sections of hose together at the end of my hopper, and that worked PERFECTLY. Then after I put about 20 round in the q-pod, I attached it to my gun after pre-loading the tube on my gun, and as soon as I attached the q-pod it broke paint. I was upset, but not as much as before.

I then resized the length of my hose on my gun so that there is no space between the last ball pre-loading the hose and the socket (if that makes sense), and then put another about 20 balls into a fresh q-pod, attached it to the gun and..... IT DIDN'T BREAK PAINT!!!

I went outside, gassed up the gun, and it wasn't loading very well. Long story short, I have sized the hose perfectly, I have figured out how to load the pods perfectly now, and I am so excited to master this thing I have spent hours on it now, and now I have to clean "only" two of my q-pods


As many of you guys said, this is definitely NOT a loading system for a normal player- I will definitely not be suggesting this system to my non-mechanically inclined friends. I am so glad I braced myself for these last two hours, or else I would have been seriously disappointed/frustrated. Thanks again guys, your the best.

pics for your enjoyment:

[note] there was no paint in the gun when these pictures were taken [/note]

[Flycatchr]

i would be interested to know how she plays, if you wouldnt mind giving us some feed back once you have had a game. i am thinking of getting myself the qloader as well.

[om3n]

i would be interested to know how she plays, if you wouldnt mind giving us some feed back once you have had a game. i am thinking of getting myself the qloader as well.

I definitely will. I will be playing this Thursday, so I will post some updates then. Hopefully if I have my helmet cam configured by then I'll have some first person video of me pwning people too