What do you think about q-loaders?

[GoatBoy]

Good job figuring out the hose length's relationship to the ball chopping. That's the primary reason why people complain about not being able to reload a pod without breaking.

If the pods aren't very well feeding, you might want to check for obstructions, like if the gate/valve is seated properly (one of mine wasn't, so I had to do a little sanding to get it to seat properly in the socket). Either that, or it's the prewind spring tension, although I found that they're wound pretty decently from factory.

Same goes for reloading; you really shouldn't need more than 1 length of hose to let gravity force balls into the socket; if you do, you might need to check for obstructions again. Also make sure that they're falling straight down into the socket as you wind.

[malJohann]

Okay. Glad you're so open-minded about struggling a bit with it. Now, lose the loading hose, put some tape on your hopper's feedneck and attach it directly to the crank. All this gravity necessary to load the pods is a load of bull.

Just a reminder, the reason why your paint breaks so easily could be due to how tough the shell is. If you continue experiencing problems and you know it's not due to a chopped ball from the pod, then change to another paint.

Also, remember to give the pods one wind with the crank before you start loading balls, since this will prevent any of the last balls from staying in the pod.

I agree with you adding one or two more pre-winds, since that's a whole lot of gravity you have to work against with so much of your hose going directly up. I guess you see now what I meant about how tall the feedneck would be.

[om3n]

First time playing with my qloader

Ok guys, I gotta say, the qloader is just totally different. I just played a few 2 on 2 games today in preparation for bigger games later this summer, and since it was 2 on 2, we generally just did a bunch of bunker fighting. I shot a good 3/4 case of paint through the gun and the q-loader system.

Now I gotta say, I need practice reloading with the pods in combat. They are actually a little slower than refilling a hopper for me still, and of course you do have to reload them 2x more often than refilling a hopper. Now I never got shot or rushed while I was reloading, but I still didn't do as well as I normally do because I had to be so conscious of my ammo. Right now my gun is shooting semi auto but quite fast with the ULT, but the other 3 guys I was playing with were using automatic electric guns. I'm definitely gonna get this mag rt'ing ASAP.

How did it perform:
flawlessly. No chops of any sort; in the chamber, barrel, or in the q-loader system. No ball jams, nothing bad at all. I probably put a total of 7 qpods on the gun (including refilling the same ones) and nothing bad happened the whole time.

My impression:
The qloader is impressive. It's definitely not for everyone, and I am going to have to perfect my using it, but I am willing to learn. It's just I have always been the best player amongst my friends (we have always played woodsball) and today I didn't do as well as normal. I don't blame the q-loader, but I am just going to have to get used to it.

However, it's freaking quiet, extremely fast, no batteries, low profile, allows shooting using odd angles, and looks awesome It's just something new I gotta get used too.

[GoatBoy]

Now I gotta say, I need practice reloading with the pods in combat. They are actually a little slower than refilling a hopper for me still, and of course you do have to reload them 2x more often than refilling a hopper. Now I never got shot or rushed while I was reloading, but I still didn't do as well as I normally do because I had to be so conscious of my ammo. Right now my gun is shooting semi auto but quite fast with the ULT, but the other 3 guys I was playing with were using automatic electric guns. I'm definitely gonna get this mag rt'ing ASAP.

I just played today for the first time since November. I routinely play with an on-gun camera, and the footage is up in my Youtube channel. I like to use the footage to get realistic data about what I'm doing.

In game, my reloads take 5-7 seconds. I'm hardly vulnerable during this time since I still have paint in the tube and in the chamber, and I'm free to move the gun however I want while reloading as long as the pod gets engaged, meaning you can reload while tilted sideways or upside down or coming out the top of your bunker. I'm not rushed or nervous while reloading either; in fact I'm normally looking around or screaming at my teammates while I do so.

I'm not sure if RT'ing your gun will actually help. It's useful for bunkering and hitting moving targets, but not so much for snap shooting. In that instance, if you don't hit the guy with the first 2-3 balls, sending another 10 after he's already pulled back isn't really going to do you that much good. You'll probably wind up blowing through more paint, and that's the opposite of what you want to do when running with reduced capacity.

Instead, concentrate on getting the best out of what the Q gives you -- a greatly reduced profile.




On a side note, I've noticed some cracks starting to appear in the plastic of my CMS socket; mine is the first generation, so I've had it for quite a while now. Newer ones may be stronger. Still functional, but probably time for me to get a backup.

[om3n]

I just played today for the first time since November. I routinely play with an on-gun camera, and the footage is up in my Youtube channel. I like to use the footage to get realistic data about what I'm doing.

In game, my reloads take 5-7 seconds. I'm hardly vulnerable during this time since I still have paint in the tube and in the chamber, and I'm free to move the gun however I want while reloading as long as the pod gets engaged, meaning you can reload while tilted sideways or upside down or coming out the top of your bunker. I'm not rushed or nervous while reloading either; in fact I'm normally looking around or screaming at my teammates while I do so.

I'm not sure if RT'ing your gun will actually help. It's useful for bunkering and hitting moving targets, but not so much for snap shooting. In that instance, if you don't hit the guy with the first 2-3 balls, sending another 10 after he's already pulled back isn't really going to do you that much good. You'll probably wind up blowing through more paint, and that's the opposite of what you want to do when running with reduced capacity.

Instead, concentrate on getting the best out of what the Q gives you -- a greatly reduced profile.




On a side note, I've noticed some cracks starting to appear in the plastic of my CMS socket; mine is the first generation, so I've had it for quite a while now. Newer ones may be stronger. Still functional, but probably time for me to get a backup.

This is true.

Yesterday I reconfigured my qloader to be offset on the side of the gun, and reloading is MUCH faster and easier. I can do it so much faster now in fact that I can do it with my eyes closed. Also, when I first played, because of how long and vertical the ball hose was, paint kept falling out of the socket when I would reload. Now only one round comes out when I reload, and if that. I have been practicing like crazy reloading my gun, and now it's much much more efficient and my profile is much lower too this way. I'll post pictures later.

Also, I reconfigured my ghetto q-pod loader. I now have a hopper sitting directly on top of a reloading socket. Works perfectly- I just have to give the hopper a shake or two while reloading a pod.

Lastly, the reason I didn't do so hot against all my friends I think is because I am used to playing with an automatic gun with a 200 round hopper and 5 x 120 round pods on my back. This gun and loading system are just so totally new to me that I need to get a little more experience with them. But believe me, I am totally willing and purposed to learn how to use this new system and get very good with it. I think I am going to stick with semi automatic for now- I want to learn how to not dump paint like I'm used to and start getting more accurate and more efficient. Mags are some of the most consistent guns I've ever shot, so hopefully that can help me make up for my previous paint-dumping playing style.

[MKing]

That is a sweet looking setup! Congrats. My setup is embarrassingly ghetto compared to that, but for the record I thought I would share it anyway.

After playing a few games more with mine I decided I didn't like the feel of having the qloader pod extending past my front hand. I noticed that I was always trying not to wack the pod when I popped out from behind a bunker. It was just enough to through me off a little. When I want to pop out quick I only want to have to think about whom I am going to shoot and who is going to shoot me. Not about whether I am going to break my loader by hitting it. I also never really liked that the balance of my gun was off to the left with where I had the loader.

So I took another look at my rt pro and thought again about the threads on the bottom of the for grip. I never understood why the fore grip is treaded (I'm sure there is a reason for it) but I decided to make use of the threads. Here are two pictures. The first is how it actually is, the second is the vision for how it will be after my stock and apex tip are on (the scale of the stock is probably off). First the balance is now down the middle. I am also hoping that having the loader back further, rear facing and under the stock will help keep it protected and help keep my mind off of it.

[om3n]

I really like your setup- once you get a stock I do think it will look more complete though. But to me the classic look and the q-loader do go quite will together :) Actually I now have my q-loader in a setup alot more similar to yours- I have it sort of angled off the side. I'll post pictures of it later. I also have a pneu-intelliframe in the mail, so I will soon be able to take advantage of the q-loaders speed finally :) My mag is almost complete... it will be complete after I get the pneu-frame (I think... and hope. It's already set me back quite a bit )

[om3n]

updated pictures

Ok here are some current setup pictures...

I actually love the apex on this barrel. It came from a standard apex barrel I used for my tippmann, and after doing a TON of testing, I figured it was actually more accurate to use it on my J&J like this rather than using the J&J without it. I attached it by removing it from the old stock apex barrel, taking 2 rubber bands and cutting them so they are simply a long thin piece of rubber, wrapping them around the J&J, and then taking the 2 receivers from the apex and screwing them on over top of the correctly placed/coiled rubber bands. The apex is not going anywhere setup like this. It actually takes alot of force to pull it off the barrel once the receivers are screwed together.

Sometime next week my black pneu-intelliframe will be here too :) Then it will be complete... the ultimate woodsball gun. Seriously... I can't think of anything it needs. Fairly light, uber fast, extremely consistent, stylish, very quiet, NO BATTERIES, rugged, and long ranged. Not to mention it's an x-valved lvl 10 ult (soon to by pneumatic) automag!!!! :) Seriously this is my dream marker

When looking at these pictures, remember I'm a lefty, so everything looks like it's on the wrong side. It's supposed to

[MKing]

Yeah there really isn't any room to go up from there.
I look forward to trying the apex. I had a flatline which I liked other than the weight. I am planning on putting it on my crown point barrel, with the crown removed of course.

[GoatBoy]

I have been practicing like crazy reloading my gun, and now it's much much more efficient and my profile is much lower too this way. I'll post pictures later.

You should make a video of a reload. I'm always interested in seeing how people manage their reloads. Watch enough videos and you start understanding what's reality and what's myth about paintball gear.

[om3n]

You should make a video of a reload. I'm always interested in seeing how people manage their reloads. Watch enough videos and you start understanding what's reality and what's myth about paintball gear.

I'll totally do that. Seriously, I am starting to love my q-loader. I have been messing with it more and more, and it really is an awesome loader.

I'll take the video a little later today- again I'm not as efficient as you (if you are the one in the video you posted earlier) but I am alot more efficient than I used to be, and even more efficient than refilling with a normal pod. I think a pod takes more effort because you have to worry about spilling paint- with the q-loader it's just like switching a magazine.

[WARHEAD]

I'll totally do that. Seriously, I am starting to love my q-loader. I have been messing with it more and more, and it really is an awesome loader.

I'll take the video a little later today- again I'm not as efficient as you (if you are the one in the video you posted earlier) but I am alot more efficient than I used to be, and even more efficient than refilling with a normal pod. I think a pod takes more effort because you have to worry about spilling paint- with the q-loader it's just like switching a magazine.

The q-loader is definitely awesome. I just finished my Tac One setup, here's a short vid showing how the loader is mounted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvVjO6x8-k8

and of course, one of it firing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXH__kQ2Dfc

[GoatBoy]

Does the ferret approve?

The q-loader is definitely awesome. I just finished my Tac One setup, here's a short vid showing how the loader is mounted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvVjO6x8-k8

and of course, one of it firing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXH__kQ2Dfc

[68magOwner]

just keep the halo

[WARHEAD]

Does the ferret approve?

The ferret approves, though she would have rather been able to chew a little more on the bike grip...