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  • Spider-TW
    U R techno-literate!

    • Oct 2006
    • 3554

    #31
    Cyberave used to do partial jobs and fixes as well, I think. He used to offer to straighten up poor setups.

    He is working OT (which I guess is a good thing considering) and BigEvil is slave driving him for Tunaball3 as well.

    It looks like you have a magnet mod on there; did you try adjusting the magnets before you added the spring?

    If the actuating rod between the trigger and the MSV-2 arm is sliding off, it may need to be a larger diameter to keep it from moving.

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    • mag79
      WoodBall Ghost
      • Feb 2006
      • 1474

      #32
      call me I'll help you out. I dry fired the frame on my gun multiple times and never had the rod come off. You should be able to slide the mounting braket up to avoid the rod from coming off. Dont forget to adjust the lpr.

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      • om3n
        pm's more than posts
        • Nov 2008
        • 438

        #33
        Originally posted by mag79
        call me I'll help you out. I dry fired the frame on my gun multiple times and never had the rod come off. You should be able to slide the mounting braket up to avoid the rod from coming off. Dont forget to adjust the lpr.

        I realize it's not your fault dude, I'm sure it did fire when you tried it, but the lever on the 3way would fall away from trigger rod if you held the gun at an angle.

        I'm working on it right now... I just picked up some epoxy and I just remounted the magnet mod.... In a bit I'm going to epoxy the 3way onto the bracket it was screwed on before in the same way I used hot-glue as a temporary fix. I'll do this by applying epoxy onto the side of the 3way, screwing in the top screw, and then pivoting it into position and allowing it to dry like that. That will hold it down and it will work fine as a permanent fix I'm sure.

        Thanks for the help guys; I'll post a picture later. I will get this thing working properly!!!

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        • Spider-TW
          U R techno-literate!

          • Oct 2006
          • 3554

          #34
          Besides getting the frame working, keep in mind a few things;

          1) There is some technique involved in walking a pneu cleanly. You may already have it, or you may need some practice. The better the setup, the easier it is. The trigger is "electro-light" but not electro; it's a pneu-mag.

          2) You kind of said this before; if you put it on a mag that you only played with a standard on/off, non-reactive before, you may find some starvation problems with the air system when you double your output. It has nothing to do with the pneu frame, but the faster you go the better the valve has to breathe. No skinny hoses or pinhole ASAs.

          3) Hope you have something to feed it paint.

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          • om3n
            pm's more than posts
            • Nov 2008
            • 438

            #35
            Originally posted by Spider-TW
            Besides getting the frame working, keep in mind a few things;

            1) There is some technique involved in walking a pneu cleanly. You may already have it, or you may need some practice. The better the setup, the easier it is. The trigger is "electro-light" but not electro; it's a pneu-mag.

            2) You kind of said this before; if you put it on a mag that you only played with a standard on/off, non-reactive before, you may find some starvation problems with the air system when you double your output. It has nothing to do with the pneu frame, but the faster you go the better the valve has to breathe. No skinny hoses or pinhole ASAs.

            3) Hope you have something to feed it paint.

            1) I plan on learning the technique. I do think that's the problem with my inability to walk the thing. It seem much harder to walk than an electro.

            2) also I am afraid I am still starving it because I refuse to play without a remote I'm gonna have to figure out what to do about this.... would a higher output on my tank reg help solve this? I think my starving the gun also contributes to my inability to walk it.

            3) I have a qloader- no problems feeding it. I probably have the most insane setup out of anyone I know lol every time I walk into my proshop with this mag everyone does a double take and talks to me about it

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            • Barsse
              Registered User
              • Jan 2009
              • 84

              #36
              I have a question as well. For the trigger rod, I saw some that have it coming at an angle from the top of the trigger (need to drill at an angle), and some from the middle going horizontally toward the MSV-2 lever. Is there a big difference?

              I can see how in chimera frame coming from the top is still pushing o the rod almost horizontally, but in intelliframe my concern is that if I come at angle, the pushing is done through the curved part of the trigger, so the wear will be stronger, whereas I think if I do it in horizontal way, flat part of the trigger is perpendicular to rod, so all the movement is directed straight to the MSV-2 lever, yet the travel distance will be larger as well. So my question is... does it make a big difference how the rod goes, as long as it still hits the top part of the lever?

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              • om3n
                pm's more than posts
                • Nov 2008
                • 438

                #37
                Question guys...

                so when I pull and hold trigger, I can hear gas leaking around the piston. What can I do to fix that?

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                • om3n
                  pm's more than posts
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 438

                  #38
                  Originally posted by om3n
                  Question guys...

                  so when I pull and hold trigger, I can hear gas leaking around the piston. What can I do to fix that?

                  really I would like to get this fixed... I am playing later today!! Should I just apply some grease to the piston or does it need to be mounted closer to the sear or what should I do?

                  Thanks again guys!

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                  • rawbutter
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 1463

                    #39
                    Your leak is normal. A good pneumag "leaks" when the trigger is depressed. It's venting air to prevent a build-up. Most of the time, you're just tapping the trigger anyway, so you don't have to worry about how much air you're losing.

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                    • rawbutter
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1463

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Barsse
                      does it make a big difference how the rod goes, as long as it still hits the top part of the lever?
                      I doubt this makes a big difference. My pneumag trigger rod is almost perfectly horizontal, and I can walk my trigger perfectly, but some of the other guys (like cyberave and loguzzzzz) tend to put more of an angle in there. I'm sure there is a difference, but it's so minute you won't notice.

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                      • cyberave68
                        www.BigEvilOnline.com
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1084

                        #41
                        Originally posted by mongoose
                        Looks like you bought one that was built by Cyberave68..............You shouldn't have any problems at all
                        Sorry goose thats not my build. Those are my parts but i didnt do that one....
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                        http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=129891

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                        • om3n
                          pm's more than posts
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 438

                          #42
                          Originally posted by cyberave68
                          Sorry goose thats not my build. Those are my parts but i didnt do that one....
                          Yeah honestly whoever did do it didn't seem to do a great job. :/ I had to put alot of work into to it to get it where it's at... I was told it was done by you Cyberave and that was extremely important to me before i bought it. I'm actually quite ticked



                          I had to re-glue the one of the magnets which came off extremely easily, re-glue the bracket that mounts the magnet to the 3way which also came off extremely easily, I had to remount the 3way onto the bracket that is attached to the back of the frame, and that bracket is not even centered correctly :/ It works quite well now, but when I bought it, it wasn't in the condition it was advertised in nor was it built by the person that the seller claimed it was built by
                          Last edited by om3n; 05-31-2009, 11:00 PM.

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                          • mag79
                            WoodBall Ghost
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1474

                            #43
                            om3n we had several pm between the both of us before I sold you the frame. I never rushed you and told you to take your time in considering this frame. All the information I passed on to you is true. The original owner said it was build for him by cyberave68 some time ago. Take detail pictures of every single piece of the frame, inside outside and post them. Then see what cyberave68 will say. I told you in one of the pm's tha he does great work. That frame is flawless. The only thing I did was change the barbs from plastic to nickle. You can still call me and I can help you out.

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                            • om3n
                              pm's more than posts
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 438

                              #44
                              Originally posted by mag79
                              om3n we had several pm between the both of us before I sold you the frame. I never rushed you and told you to take your time in considering this frame. All the information I passed on to you is true. The original owner said it was build for him by cyberave68 some time ago. Take detail pictures of every single piece of the frame, inside outside and post them. Then see what cyberave68 will say. I told you in one of the pm's tha he does great work. That frame is flawless. The only thing I did was change the barbs from plastic to nickle. You can still call me and I can help you out.
                              I just pm'd you, but I'm totally serious when I say it was not in playable condition when I got it. I did spend a good couple hours messing with it to get it playable.

                              Cyberave, I'm going to post some detailed pictures of the frame tomorrow and if you have time please confirm if you did build the frame. Thanks

                              And mag79, I'm not trying to be a jerk, I am right now sharing my true experience about the frame.

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                              • mag79
                                WoodBall Ghost
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 1474

                                #45
                                cool, let me know what you need. I'll help you out.

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