Ball chopping...Not what I thought.

[Smoothice]

Well I was given this link by d4m4don3 here on AO and it is truly amazing.

Not only is the video footage amazing but it shows how a ball is actually chopped.

Watch and be amazed.

If the xvalve ever gets a redesign this MUST be taken into consideration...

Edit:I have been corrected in this thread. No redesign is necessary EVER and that I am for ever thinking it

[DevilMan]

Well I was given this link by d4m4don3 here on AO and it is truly amazing.

Not only is the video footage amazing but it shows how a ball is actually chopped.

Watch and be amazed.

If the xvalve ever gets a redesign this MUST be taken into consideration...

Welllllllllllllllllll where's part 2????

Slacker!



Cool video. Really liked seeing the slow motion chops. Funny how it does that not on 1 ball but through the process. It's like the first one that you notice is actually about 3 balls back from the start of the problem.

DM

[Thordic]

That was pretty damn interesting indeed.

[eckoblazer]

Gotta hand it to eclipse for the cure bolts, very well thought out.

[Miltonyz]

I watched the first five minutes. It appears that it says that chops are caused by the bolt nicking the next ball in the stack weakening it and causes problems. If I understand the video correctly the Level 10 already corrects that problem. When the LVL X came out Tom Kaye explained that was an issue with lvl 7 bolts.

[behemoth]

Interesting vid indeed. Part two only shows how to install the new cure bolt...

[Smoothice]

I watched the first five minutes. It appears that it says that chops are caused by the bolt nicking the next ball in the stack weakening it and causes problems. If I understand the video correctly the Level 10 already corrects that problem. When the LVL X came out Tom Kaye explained that was an issue with lvl 7 bolts.

Well that may be true. I was always under the impression a chop occurred with a partially fed ball on its way into the breach. Never did I think it could be caused by the next ball in line to be shot.

I would have to look at my level 10 and level 7 bolts to see if there is any slope/ramp milling to correct this problem.

If you are referring to the level 10 resetting as the cure to the problem the video presents then I would think every shot would be a bolt reset and you would never fire a ball.

[Wanta B Sniper]

LvL 10 bolts starts out moving slowly, and with a rounded nose I think that would help cure that problem mostly.

[cockerpunk]

well it took jack and the rest of us in punkworks a couple of months to formulate the different theories as to barrel breaks after we solidly destroyed the idea that a small bore barrel causes them. since then we have been referring to such breaks as loading fractures. and so far the reaction for the industry from those findings has been pretty substantial.

[Temo Vryce]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5sFfgRw-Uc

Part 2

[Tunaman]

Well at least they got it figured out in THAT gun...TK already figured it out in ours about 10 years ago...

[Smoothice]

Well at least they got it figured out in THAT gun...TK already figured it out in ours about 10 years ago...

hmmm. Maybe that's why I never realized a chop like this was possible. I've always used mags.

Well would this be an issue with a level 7?

What if this ramp idea was applied to the level 7. Would it equal faster cycling with less chops?

[Beemer]

Well at least they got it figured out in THAT gun...TK already figured it out in ours about 10 years ago...

More then 10 years ago.

[Wanta B Sniper]

hmmm. Maybe that's why I never realized a chop like this was possible. I've always used mags.

Well would this be an issue with a level 7?

What if this ramp idea was applied to the level 7. Would it equal faster cycling with less chops?

Yea, since the LvL 7 accelerates much faster at the beginning than the LvL 10 it is very possibly the cause of many chops rather than actually crushing the ball between the top the the breech and the bolt.

[Hexis]

It is quite nice to see other companies working with improvements that can be shown to be making a change vs total hype.

High Speed Video = all kinds of fun.