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  • snoopay700
    Serious About Men

    • Jan 2006
    • 3071

    #136
    Beemer, did you not read tom's post? The fn303's shot is 8.5 grams or something like that, that's against the standards
    Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #137
      Originally posted by Beemer
      Color16.5 mm (0.650 in.) and 18 mm (0.709 in.).

      ^^Hmmm 65cal at 3.5G at 300FPS. I will buy this stuff.

      So do the math. 50cal at 3.5G at 300FPS or 50cal at 3.0G at 300FPS or WHAT, is SAFE??

      What we know. 3.5G max at 68cal at 300FPS.

      What we dont know. What the weight of this NEW 50cal ball is ASSUMING its velocity is 300FPS Max.

      Screw it, just sign me up for the First Strike rounds or better yet lets just play with FN303's.
      What in paintball has ever considered safety first? The arguments against this working have been:

      It might not work. Big deal, spiral porting, low pressure, and a large amount of what we have done has not actually worked. It didn't even have science behind it. This at least has some science behind it, and truth be told it has some great marketing stand points. IF it works or not in reality are secondary to those pushing it.

      Safety. How many examples of this taking a back seat do you need?
      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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      • Beemer
        I could tell you but then.

        • Oct 2003
        • 3250

        #138
        Originally posted by Lohman446
        What in paintball has ever considered safety first? The arguments against this working have been:

        It might not work. Big deal, spiral porting, low pressure, and a large amount of what we have done has not actually worked. It didn't even have science behind it. This at least has some science behind it, and truth be told it has some great marketing stand points. IF it works or not in reality are secondary to those pushing it. Safety. How many examples of this taking a back seat do you need?
        Hmmm, well not to many. See I know how it is, since I started playing in 85.

        I just want to know how they think this will work. I am only here to give the facts on ASTM and Safety First.

        You dont even know the weight of this new proposed ball so how can you say there is science behind it?

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #139
          Originally posted by Beemer
          Hmmm, well not to many. See I know how it is, since I started playing in 85.

          I just want to know how they think this will work. I am only here to give the facts on ASTM and Safety First.

          You dont even know the weight of this new proposed ball so how can you say there is science behind it?
          I will beleive it will be better when I see it. That being said its secondary. These people have pushed how much through without any consideration to if it works or if its safe? Whats it you are always saying about the majority of players? It applies.
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • Hilltop Customs
            Registered User
            • Aug 2007
            • 1260

            #140
            There is a limiting factor, its called pain and deep tissue damage

            smaller, more dense.....but they just happened to leave out, a lower recommended velocity


            I like the idea of smaller paint, but god that is some horrid hype marketing. "Now you can carry 10,000 rounds of our new more-dense paint! Dont forget to check out our new marker! We shaved 1/2 a gram so we can charge you even more than last year!"

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            • Lohman446
              Useful posts: 7
              • Jun 2003
              • 9315

              #141
              Again I will point this out. You are expecting logical reasoning to define the marketing attempts of SP and Dye. Based on what? I have given multiple examples of where it has not
              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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              • Hilltop Customs
                Registered User
                • Aug 2007
                • 1260

                #142
                I dont expect logical reasoning to be used in marketing, especially when considering the paintball demographic and their acceptance of the absurd.

                On the other hand, these companies have lawyers, lawyers know how much selling an unsafe product will cost, but they also know they dont have to mention the safety constraints when marketing the product. The safety issue can be taken care of with a tiny subscript line on the box stating "this paint is only to be used under 220 fps and ONLY with safety gear designed for these smaller, more dense rounds"

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