Has anyone tried a Warpless Warp setup?

[xero28]

Okay, so it's 1 am, but with the time change it feels like 2 am. I can't sleep and I've been turning ideas over in my head. One of them is that of a Warpless warp, and I was wondering if anyone has tried it.

I was reading a post the other day and someone was saying that they took out all of the electronics in their warp and were just using a force feed to push the balls through (or something like that). So my question is, do you really need the warp at all now? I was thinking that you could just get a piece of metal and connect it to the bottom of the trigger frame. It would stick out to one side, drill a large hole in it and put your loader in the hole (obviously I would devise some way to hold the loader in tight). Then just run some warp hose from the loader to the feedneck.

Now, I was thinking about trying it with my Halo. But after thinking about it some more, I figured it might not work since once the balls get past the bend in the hose and start going up, gravity and the weight of them pushing back would stop the loader. So I would figure you would have to use a loader that is sound activated to make sure the balls keep moving. There are plenty of those out there, so I don't think that would be a huge issue.

I think it would work pretty well, and running a warp setup without an extra pound and a half would be very nice. Let me know what you guys think or if you have any other ideas that would make this work better.

Thanks.

[maniacmechanic]

I've been thinking about this for a few months , just too lazy to do anything

[secretweaponevan]

That is basically what Warwitch did for his TM-15. He put halo guts into a new box though.

[vf-xx]

I've been thinking about this for a few months , just too lazy to do anything

Ditto. Have a reloader B just sitting here. Was going to try it with some extra warp shells, but I never got an extra set.

Been mulling over some other ideas.

The one downside to the idea of just mounting the loader low and running the hose back up, is that I'd want to protect the bottom part of the hose from getting mashed.

[zondo]

Ditto. Have a reloader B just sitting here. Was going to try it with some extra warp shells, but I never got an extra set.

Been mulling over some other ideas.

The one downside to the idea of just mounting the loader low and running the hose back up, is that I'd want to protect the bottom part of the hose from getting mashed.

If you can mount it more toward the rear, like Luke's rear warp mount, I would think that would help. Or if you had a hard tube (PVC?) on the bottom portion.

[xero28]

So, this is kind of something I was thinking about as far as a mounting bracket. It would move the hopper up a little bit and you could run the hose without it sticking too far down below the gun. I have no idea how accurate the drawing is, but it's a start.

[zondo]

So, this is kind of something I was thinking about as far as a mounting bracket. It would move the hopper up a little bit and you could run the hose without it sticking too far down below the gun. I have no idea how accurate the drawing is, but it's a start.

Just use one of the 90* warp fittings at the bottom of the hopper?

[cockerpunk]

it depends on how much force you want to put on those balls. the nice thing about the warp is that it minimizes the force by introducing it lower in the system.

[xero28]

Just use one of the 90* warp fittings at the bottom of the hopper?

That would work, though I'm not sure if the fitting would fit around the loader feedneck. Maybe a piece of PVC or something?

[zondo]

Yeah, I wish there was a more integrated warp/hopper design as opposed to working around the limitations of separate parts.

[vf-xx]

Wonder if we could get someone to make special Halo/Reloader shells. That and a board set up for Intellifeed would do it. Just have the shell set up to mount up to Luke's warp mounts.

[xero28]

it depends on how much force you want to put on those balls. the nice thing about the warp is that it minimizes the force by introducing it lower in the system.

I'm may be wrong, but wouldn't it be the same amount of force placed on the balls that are fed through a standard feedneck?

[kcombs9]

I'm may be wrong, but wouldn't it be the same amount of force placed on the balls that are fed through a standard feedneck?

Yes but you have a much larger stack and your squishing more balls together = more problems with bad paint.

[Spider-TW]

Yes but you have a much larger stack and your squishing more balls together = more problems with bad paint.

Warwitch seems to get away with it and Halos tend to have too much force for old nubbins anyway.

How about a combo part of xero and zondo - a 90* feed elbow/mounting bracket? It would make some easy testing at least.

This would be the experimental mag that you take out with your solid mag.

[xero28]

How about a combo part of xero and zondo - a 90* feed elbow/mounting bracket? It would make some easy testing at least.

This would be the experimental mag that you take out with your solid mag.

Sounds interesting. You could solder or weld a 90* elbow to the bottom of the mounting bracket with a little extra length on the hopper side so it has something to fit into better. The you could just fit the warp hose to the other end of the 90*.